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Driveway guy wants land for Pony?

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  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    Our neighbour has stuck verbal deal to sell a piece of land for 5 times its market value to a guy (who knocks on peoples doors to do work on your driveway) so he can put his pony on it? This guy has also asked if the land has services on it ie: electricity water etc.
    Why on earth is he paying 5 times market value (apparently before even knowing whether or not it had services), for greenbelt land with no prospect of getting planning? Is this story even true?
  • tori.k
    tori.k Posts: 3,592 Forumite
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    Are you positive its not a wind-up seems and odd thing to declare to your neighbours when your selling your house as often buyer look to chat with others living in a area. Our landscaper had a bit of fun with one of our neighbours when we recently had some landscaping done at the front of our house by telling them it was the hard standing for a static caravan that our eldest son was moving into.
  • billy2shots
    billy2shots Posts: 1,125 Forumite
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    Anytime you buy a house next to or near land you need to do due diligence and consider what the land could be used for in the future.

    Any potential buyer of your neighbors house should consider the potential use of that and YOU should have considered it when you moved to your home.

    Let's cut to the quick. Your issue isn't a moral one in so far as you are worried for your future neighbor.
    Your worry is solely for yourself and the fact you don't want travelers using land near you.

    That ship has sailed because as I said earlier, that should have been considered before you purchased your home.
  • Enterprise_1701C
    Enterprise_1701C Posts: 23,415 Forumite
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    edited 6 December 2018 at 9:35AM
    But surely that would apply to anywhere with open countryside around it.

    Of course his/her worry is a personal one, you want to feel save in your own home, the reputation of travellers is such that if some pitched up there the homeowner would not feel safe. It would be wonderful if they behaved themselves, did not go around nicking metal drain covers leaving a dangerous gaping hole in the middle of a garage area, and did not leave heaps of rubbish everywhere. Unfortunately that community tends to use threats and violence to get what they want in a lot of instances, then they go off to destroy the next community, and they also tend not to pay taxes or council taxes.

    We have lived where we are for 33 years, you simply can't look at the place you move into and predict what is going to happen, you have to rely on the council being reasonable with planning.

    Unfortunately you cannot plan for parts of the population that trample all over planning permission and repeatedly break the law.

    I too would go with the idea of a sign in the garden, along with a CCTV camera fixed somewhere unobtrusive watching the front of the house.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • billy2shots
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    But surely that would apply to anywhere with open countryside around it.

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    Yes. Yes it does. Why would that come as a surprise?
    If you buy a house overlooking a picturesque empty field (which may have agricultural use) then don't be surprised if one day a pig farm is operating there.

    You ALWAYS have to base all decisions based on worst case scenarios when buying next to land.

    All this talk of erecting signs lol.

    If the land needs a change of use, the OP will have plenty of opportunity to raise concerns in a more grown up way.
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
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    Your neighbour isn't called Violet Bucket?
  • giraffe69
    giraffe69 Posts: 3,639 Forumite
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    A quiet word with potential buyers, if possible, might cause them to do some checking
  • Its definitely not a wind up

    I'm absolutely 100% positive he is selling the land to travellers
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 11,363 Forumite
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    Why on earth is he paying 5 times market value (apparently before even knowing whether or not it had services), for greenbelt land with no prospect of getting planning? Is this story even true?


    Why would they apply for planning?


    The normal process with things like this is to wait for a long bank holiday weekend (ideally Easter with 4 days), rock up Thursday night, concrete over the land over the weekend, move in on the Monday and by Tuesday when the planners are back in the office, submit retrospective planning and then refuse to move for years while the council wastes tens of millions fighting it

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    Nasqueron wrote: »
    Why would they apply for planning?

    The normal process with things like this is to wait for a long bank holiday weekend (ideally Easter with 4 days), rock up Thursday night, concrete over the land over the weekend, move in on the Monday and by Tuesday when the planners are back in the office, submit retrospective planning and then refuse to move for years while the council wastes tens of millions fighting it
    They might not apply for planning, but it's not as if anybody could argue there's hope value in the land if it's greenbelt. So, why five times the market value?
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