Mileage blocker

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angrycrow wrote: »

Well that was an eye opener thanks for correcting my miss understand facade. Clearer a fraudulent practice and a criminal offence to use one to miss represent the mileage. Given they appear to plug into the dash board module I would guess the engine ecu mileage will differ from the dash mileage which could be a way to detect them.

Op get rid as you have no way of knowing the true mileage and any warranty will be void.

I don't know exactly how the bmw ones work, but in general they disable the speedo so the dash thinks it is standing still, I'd have thought you'd have been in trouble with the ABS, stability and traction control if the ecu didn't know it was moving, so I'd have thought the ecu would just correct the dash odometer, but it appears that it doesn't.




They seem a lot of money to avoid simply reprogramming the mileage with the correct kit though.



You can see why they are so popular, if you take out a lease or PCP on minimum miles, you can put 200K on the car and save thousands (If you change the pedal rubbers and steering wheel I guess )

ess0two

I had similar with a Mercedes, had trouble starting 1 day, got a guy out who confirmed the fault and informed that the car had 100+k,yet had 55k on clock.

I had to get it into a merc dealer who interrogated the ECU to confirm the discrepancy,all SH and MOT's stacked up wrt mileage etc.

Got a full refund from trader,after getting trading standards involved also.

Stoke

I'd never heard of this, so I googled it. wow. £150 can get you on, plug and play fitment, not even illegal (apparently) despite the advert clearly indicating the aim of the device is to cheat your mileage.

To be fair, a lot of older cars it was super easy.... this is just the modern equivalent. I assume it cuts the speedo line while simulating the rest of the functionality.

reeac

I must lead a sheltered life as it's the first that I'd heard of mileage blockers. Looking them up on the Internet they seem to be aimed especially at the usual German suspects ....Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes etc. Could they be a spinoff from emissions cheating technology?

George_Michael

Stoke wrote: »

I'd never heard of this, so I googled it. wow. £150 can get you on, plug and play fitment, not even illegal (apparently) despite the advert clearly indicating the aim of the device is to cheat your mileage.

Provided that the speedo still indicates correctly and it doesn't interfere with any safety related systems on the vehicle then as far as I can see, you would only be breaking the law when you tried to sell the car or if the false mileage allowed you to claim for warranty or service work that you shouldn't be entitled to.

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reeac wrote: »

I must lead a sheltered life as it's the first that I'd heard of mileage blockers. Looking them up on the Internet they seem to be aimed especially at the usual German suspects ....Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes etc. Could they be a spinoff from emissions cheating technology?

As Stoke says, they are just the modern equivalent of disconnecting the speedo cable for half the year. I had a colleague who did that in the 1980s, as he used to clock up 500 miles a week commuting on the motorway.



(This was in The Olden Days when the M6/M42 used to do 80mph at 7AM. I pass underneath it now around that time and I can see it is virtually stationary.)

marlot

George_Michael wrote: »

Provided that the speedo still indicates correctly and it doesn't interfere with any safety related systems on the vehicle then as far as I can see, you would only be breaking the law when you tried to sell the car or if the false mileage allowed you to claim for warranty or service work that you shouldn't be entitled to.

It could be fraud if you hired a car under PCP with an annual mileage limit of (say) 6,000 but are actually doing many more.

photome

Get a refund.

HoofeHearted

Like others, I did not know that these devices existed.
However, I feel that Motorpoint have experienced this issue before as all the cars they have for sale are ex-hire/fleet cars.

reeac

I always understood that "clocking" was an offence. ....usually done by Arfur Daley types in the old days. I actually wound back to zero the odometer on my 1958 MGA when I restored it in the early 1980s but as I still own the car the issue of fraud has yet to arise.