Bullying tacktics UKPC

Peter_Sigsworth

My daughter rents a flat in central Manchester and pays for two adjacent parking spaces in the basement car park. On 29th Sept this year she was issued with a parking ticket for not parking within the markings. She had parked mostly on space 228 and her rear wheels were just in space 229 - but both spaces are her allotted ones. She appealed the ticket on the grounds that she pays for both spaces and can quite legitimately park in either or both. On 25th Nov her appeal was turned down by POPLA but spookily she got another ticket (at the same time the appeal was lost) for failing to display a valid permit which is clearly incorrect, even their own evidence shows a valid permit for the space the vehicle is parked in. When she tried to appeal this second ticket she was told she couldn't until the first was paid. This second ticket is clearly a bullying tactic to force payment on the first. What should she do?? Has anyone else had this problem with UKPC?
To clarify, when my daughter tried to appeal the second ticket it wasn't UKPC who told her she couldn't until the first was paid, it was other residents who told her, so in that instance UKPC were innocent.

nosferatu1001

You can appeal all tickets
Complain to the BPA that they are refusing to hear an appeal
If she hsa paid for a space, what does her agreement state about complying with these stupid rules?

Fruitcake

Complain to the BPA and DVLA that she was told she couldn't appeal a PCN because of an unrelated incident.

Also she should complain to her MP.

What does her lease/AST say about parking? Has she complained to her MA/HA/Landlord and demanded this be cancelled. A third party cannot override her existing contract or offer her something that she already has by right.

She must also complain to her MP about this unregulated scam using the comments made by our MPs in open parliament on numerous occasions in post 1 of the NEWBIES.

UKPC are scammers and bullies. They have twice been banned from obtaining keeper details, the last time for doctoring timestamps on their photo' "evidence".
Heavy duty complaints need to be made to the people who employed these scammers who are reducing the sale/rental price of properties.

Also complain long and hard that the BPA CoP is being ignored with regard to the "checking the windscreen thoroughly for tickets or permits."

As above, appeal each PCN separately. Also send a SAR to the scammers asking for all personal data they hold, as well as asking the DVLA who accessed her data and when between just before the date of the first event until now.

She can also return the permit and tell the scammers and MA etcetera to "shove it" as it clearly isn't working and she was only displaying it out of curtesy, but is not required to in accordance with her lease/AST.

beamerguy

Peter_Sigsworth wrote: »

My daughter rents a flat in central Manchester and pays for two adjacent parking spaces in the basement car park. On 29th Sept this year she was issued with a parking ticket for not parking within the markings. She had parked mostly on space 228 and her rear wheels were just in space 229 - but both spaces are her allotted ones. She appealed the ticket on the grounds that she pays for both spaces and can quite legitimately park in either or both. On 25th Nov her appeal was turned down by POPLA but spookily she got another ticket (at the same time the appeal was lost) for failing to display a valid permit which is clearly incorrect, even their own evidence shows a valid permit for the space the vehicle is parked in. When she tried to appeal this second ticket she was told she couldn't until the first was paid. This second ticket is clearly a bullying tactic to force payment on the first. What should she do?? Has anyone else had this problem with UKPC?

UKPC, the famous fraudsters, are well known for talking rubbish.

As a BPA member, they cannot refuse a POPLA code

Contact Steve Clark of the BPA steve.c@britishparking.co.uk

Peter_Sigsworth

BPA are very interested and are looking into it

Half_way

Peter_Sigsworth wrote: »

BPA are very interested and are looking into it

I hope you know just what the B.PA ltd is, so as not to get false expectations.

Next question, you said she pays for the space, is this part of the lease/rental, or too some other third party?

beamerguy

Peter_Sigsworth wrote: »

BPA are very interested and are looking into it

Let us know what Mr Clark says about this breach

The_Deep

I very much doubt if the BPA are at all interested. They showed little interest when this appeared in The Telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html

Read what MPs think about the scammers.

It is the will of Parliament that these scammers be put out of business. Hopefully that will take place in the near future. In the meantime involve your MP, the poor dears are buckling under the weight of complaints about these scammers. Read this one which I wrote earlier

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Third Reading in late November, and, with a fair wind, will become Law next year.

All three readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 6-7 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.

Veyry

nosferatu1001

The BPA are there to protect their members.
Noone else.

Coupon-mad

When she tried to appeal this second ticket she was told she couldn't until the first was paid.

Oh my God. Are UKPC trying to get kicked out of the BPA?

She will NOT be paying the ones lost at POPLA.

Peter_Sigsworth

Yes it is part of her tenancy - the landlord has got involved now and is supporting her and she has been able to appeal the second ticket