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  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    hi all,

    interested in a house listed at £230k, factors include;

    2 bed semi, with dining room and lounge, kitchen under flat roof extension, driveway, detached garage, good sized garden, semi rural location but not hugely sought after imo.

    Purchased by vendor in Dec 2017 for £166k (in need of modernisation), new interior incld bathroom, kitchen etc all fitted by vendor

    Next door sold for £186k in May 2017, less appealing interior but exactly the same house otherwise.

    i cant, personally, justify going north of £200k - what do others think?


    Even if you offer 150k you will still lose money IMO, a real economic storm is shaping up.
  • Offer less than you are prepared to pay
    Then offer a bit more if they say no.
    Rather than over-thinking it, all that is relevant is what the seller is willing to take. You won't know that until you ask.
    So if you think it is worth £200k, your first offer should be £192k or similar.

    offered 200, claimed to be offers higher than this already turned down - my mind says leave them to it.
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    offered 200, claimed to be offers higher than this already turned down - my mind says leave them to it.


    Probably best move IMO.
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    What's on in the wider area?


    Forget the £166k in Dec17 price. That's irrelevant.


    No it isn`t, the economic outlook has probably deteriorated since then. IMO parking has less to do with some of these properties not selling than the fact that people are not going to want (or be allowed) to borrow quarter of a million for a relatively small space any more.
  • Herbalus
    Herbalus Posts: 2,634 Forumite
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    No it isn`t, the economic outlook has probably deteriorated since then. IMO parking has less to do with some of these properties not selling than the fact that people are not going to want (or be allowed) to borrow quarter of a million for a relatively small space any more.

    Yes it is.

    Regardless of whether prices are going up, down, sideways, or diagonally, historic prices before works were carried out are irrelevant to what a property will see for. The price is how much somebody will pay.
  • Herbalus wrote: »
    Yes it is.

    Regardless of whether prices are going up, down, sideways, or diagonally, historic prices before works were carried out are irrelevant to what a property will see for. The price is how much somebody will pay.

    ultimately true - but some people are irrational, surely most would look and at some point think the uplift was prohibitive . . .
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    Herbalus wrote: »
    Yes it is.

    Regardless of whether prices are going up, down, sideways, or diagonally, historic prices before works were carried out are irrelevant to what a property will see for. The price is how much somebody will pay.


    And most buyers (and banks) will use recent sold prices as a guide.
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    ultimately true - but some people are irrational, surely most would look and at some point think the uplift was prohibitive . . .


    Irrational? That would be sensible, the irrational part is thinking that houses will just keep getting more and more expensive, that is highly irrational IMO, and sadly looking increasingly silly as the market just grinds to a halt :(
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    Then buying a place that's got a fresh-refurb premium seems to be an odd move.


    It's always a damn sight cheaper to buy what you want than to buy something else then turn it into what you want. And if you can afford to put an extension on, you can afford a "better" place to start with.


    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-60652183.html

    Yep, friend of mine has just spent 100k on the interior alone when that extra money would have bought him a house already done, nicer outside and he wouldn't have had the grief of 6 months building work
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    Yep, friend of mine has just spent 100k on the interior alone when that extra money would have bought him a house already done, nicer outside and he wouldn't have had the grief of 6 months building work


    No fear of a hard Brexit then?
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