Stand to loose job for using mobile phone in car

anewman

wolvoman wrote: »

Why go to court at all? After all the police could just hand out bans at the roadside.

Come to think of it, why bother having legal trials at all.

Everyone has a right to a defence, it's what separates a decent country from tyranny. In the end in this case justice was done - why do you still feel you have a point to prove?

When the guilt is certain there's little you can do about it. I could understand if the appeal was "the police officer saw me scratching my ear and I happened to have my mobile phone in my lap but I never touched it" then I could understand - but "I am guilty, please pretty please let me off, I'll be good in future although I did something else wrong in the two years previously". If someone caught using a mobile phone to make a call wants to appeal, we'll have to let Ian Huntley have his day in an appeal court then. Some things are worth appealing about, others not.

zeon999

wolvoman wrote: »

And can you categorically say that faced with a similar situation as described by the OP that you would react differently? I mean 100%?

Because if you can, you are a mighty driver and I bow down to your ability to control any given situation, no matter how difficult.

Of course the reality is that your only capability is being 'holier than thou' on on an internet forum.

Yeah cos it is so hard to not drive while using a mobile phone, however would I of done it?

If the guy had been caught for speeding by a few mph to get his second set of points then I would have had a little sympathy, as speeding by a few mph is easy done but come on you know if you drive while using a mobile phone you stand a chance of being caught and getting points which if you on your last chance you should take more care.

If he was on the phone and started driving why did he start driving?

If he was driving and he started a phone call, they why?

There is no excuse for either of these, I have no sympahy in the slightest for him.

I am no angel either and dont want to sound like one, I used to drive like an absolute loon before I had my last accident which left me in a state when I could not drive anymore and I have been in trouble with the law for more serious things than motoring offeces, difference was I did not cry like a baby about it saying oh but I am different I should be let of cos I am so special with special cercumstances.

If you do wrong then you know the risks and should just take the punishment when it comes.

wolvoman

zeon999 wrote: »

If he was on the phone and started driving why did he start driving?

If he was driving and he started a phone call, they why?

Have you actually read all of the account from the OP, or do you feel you don't need to?

The OP said that her son was already on a call using handsfree when that unit died and he immediately switched to handheld, during a call to the police and whilst on a part of a road that is very difficult to stop on (Elephant & Castle, if that means anything to you).
I've never got any points on my licence, but I can still see that such a scenario could happen to me. I'd like to think I'd behave differently but it COULD happen.

In my opinion, because there were some mitigating circumstances, it was worth contesting. In the end his protests were deemed to not have enough significance and 3 points were still applied.

1. Offence carried out.
2. Evidence of prosecution heard in court.
3. Evidence of defence heard in court.
4. Guilt decided by court.
5. Justice done.

For goodness sake, where is the big deal here?

diamond_dave

sorry wendfd but as a cyclist i have no sympathy with your predicament - so many times have I almost been hit by people on mobiles. Only by the grace of God have I avoided an accident. Please think of other road users especially the parents/family of the lad who was recently killed by someone using a mobile phone.

wolvoman

diamond_dave wrote: »

sorry wendfd but as a cyclist i have no sympathy with your predicament - so many times have I almost been hit by people on mobiles. Only by the grace of God have I avoided an accident. Please think of other road users especially the parents/family of the lad who was recently killed by someone using a mobile phone.

I cycle too and similarly have had incidents with drivers using mobiles.
I've also had incidents with drivers dealing with their kids, smoking cigarettes, driving too slow in my way and so on. It's not just phones.