Stand to loose job for using mobile phone in car

Debt_Free_Chick

Wig wrote: »

I imagine if you or I or that guys boss were to admit that yes we were still driving, we would get done for it. If it were an off duty police officer, an MP or a beak (judge) They would be let off.

You mean like Liam Byrne only last week?

TheImportanceOfBeingIdle

wendfd wrote: »

He was receiving a call FROM the police about an incident NOT making a call. His bluetooth hands free battery died so he picked up the handset.

He has 3 points already this 3 will give him 6 -

I am pleased to see so many responses to my post. I would probably agree with the more harsh comments if it wasn't my family being effected. It is very hard for young families anyway. They have a hard enough struggle with everything else!

Wendy

He's not the only one with a hard life. He knew the risks. He took a risk. I'd guarantee, that like many others who do this, if he hadn't been caught, he would have done it again in future.

Taffyscot

Gees you lot don't be so judgemental. He probably thought it was his civic duty to answer the police as it was an important matter. I was called for jury duty and went as a matter of civic duty. I was told that maybe I should not have gone because if I had been picked I would not have been able to be a caregiver for 35 hours or more for my partner and would have to pay someone to care for him. Also sometimes when we are driving and one or other of us feel really tired and want the other one to take over we sometimes have to drive longer than we want because there is nowhere safe to just pull over without that causing an accident. Pulling over is not as easy as that. Go and complain about someone doing a real crime.

Wig

Debt_Free_Chick wrote: »

You mean like Liam Byrne only last week?

He wasn't phoning 999 was he and felt it impractical to stop?

Iamthesmartestmanalive

Theres a difference between dialing for an emergency and not and I think this is the distinction the court would make

The fact the police pulled him over there and then shows to me their was no imminent emergency so 999 or not he shouldnt have been on the phone

I cant see him winning in court and all he will suceed to do is lose his licence and get a bigger fine

The only thing he might get is that if the court case takes long enough it might take him over 2 years although then again a judge if they saw that sort of attempt to get round the law might hammer him even more or charge a more serious offence , i.e 9 points and a massive fine so it has the same result

At the end of the day I have no sympathy, if he has driven so illegally in less than 2 years he'll be no real loss to britains highways and if he really does need a car for work the investment in legal solutions should have been made

TheImportanceOfBeingIdle

Taffyscot wrote: »

Gees you lot don't be so judgemental. He probably thought it was his civic duty to answer the police as it was an important matter. I was called for jury duty and went as a matter of civic duty. I was told that maybe I should not have gone because if I had been picked I would not have been able to be a caregiver for 35 hours or more for my partner and would have to pay someone to care for him. Also sometimes when we are driving and one or other of us feel really tired and want the other one to take over we sometimes have to drive longer than we want because there is nowhere safe to just pull over without that causing an accident. Pulling over is not as easy as that. Go and complain about someone doing a real crime.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=491377&in_page_id=1770

Is that not real enough? No call, and do mean NO call is THAT important. If you have nowhere to pull over immediately then tough. Wait until you can. Missing a phone call is not going to mean the end of the world.

JoJoArmani

Hey Wendy what is the outcome to this post??

Is "no news good news"?

JoJo

chris147_2

Debt_Free_Chick wrote: »

I don't think it's "straight away". For now .... he continues to drive on his current licence. If he gets the points (whether automatically or even if he attends Court) ... he still has his license UNTIL he gets the letter from the DVLA. That letter tells him license has been revoked.

He then has to apply for a provisional license, again! He has to tick the box to confirm that his original license has been revoked.

He then has to reapply for the test - both the theory and the driving test.

His licence will be revoked (if it does so) as soon as the court says so not when DVLA send him the letter. Same for if you tot up to 12 points, the court automatically take it from you there and then. He should be told to take his licence to court with him due to this.


I'm surprised most people on here are saying that it's unfair on newer drivers to have their licences revoked when they get six points. Look at it from the point of view that a high proportion of accidents involve young drivers who don't have experience and (most) are over confident in their abilities to control a car and antiicpate what is going to happen.

He knew it was illegal to use the handset whilst driving so why did he answer it? I bet he didn't know it was the Police ringing so he would have answered it anyway.

Unfortunately the law is the law and it should be upheld. People should also face up to what they've done rather than try and wriggle out of things.

Also, if he does go to court, loosing your job is no longer considered a hardship.

bryanb

Quote-He was receiving a call FROM the police about an incident NOT making a call.

He answered the before he knew it was the police I guess??

piggeh

Was just wondering the same - how do yuo know if its the police or someone else? If it's receiving a call and no one is in imminent danger, then there's no excuse to pick it up.

With regards OP (probably too late now) I personally would have appealed. It can take a year to get to court which would give enough time to look for another job if you're not confident.