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Claim form received for PCN - tempted to pay.

Hi All, I have received a Claim form from CCBC at Northampton from Parking and Property Management sent by Gladstones solicitors. Rightly or wrongly I have ignored all previous correspondence and binned the majority of it (yep, not done myself any favours) I have a copy of the original PCN which was left on my windscreen and the claim form. So far I have completed the MCOL process to buy a extra 14 days.

How I got the ticket: I was helping my niece move out of a block of flats where she was renting a room. Signage stated that you should have a permit to park, her flatmate had the permit and had already left with it in a rental vehicle driving 60 miles away. I received a PCN for "No permit"

The original ticket was for £100 reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days.
The current claim is for £165.65 + £25 court fee+ £50 legal fee total of £240.65
Im pretty sure the signage was pretty clear about displaying a permit but having parked there several times in the past with no permit and no issues, I didnt give it a second thought. (I will endeavor to get a picture of signage)
Im not sure if theres much defence I can really claim to this, Ive had a read though on previous examples, but cant really see a similar one, would I be better off just paying to make it go away as fast as is decent?

Comments

  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Asking in this forum whether you should pay will never get you any encouragement

    Read up all the advice provided in the newbies FAQ thread (#2 covers Court claims right through to the hearing) and fight this

    Even if you lose in court you won't be paying £250!!
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,406 Forumite
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    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,111 Forumite
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    Im pretty sure the signage was pretty clear about displaying a permit but having parked there several times in the past with no permit and no issues, I didnt give it a second thought.


    Then it wasn't then was it?


    Why would you pay a scam fee of £165.65 when the original invoice was for a max of £100?
    You are being conned!
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    £240 is far more than the Law allows, the solicitors know this, but hope that people will be frightened into paying by threats of CCJs, etc.

    In my opinion this is tantamount to fraud and I urge you to complain strongly to their regulatory body, the SRA.

    http://www.sra.org.uk/home/home.page
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?
  • 7th November 2018.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    7th November 2018.
    With a Claim Issue Date of 7th November, you have until Monday 26th November to do the Acknowledgement of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. To do the AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox link from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.

    Having done the AoS, you then have until 4pm on Monday 10th December 2018 to file your Defence.

    That's almost four weeks away. Loads of time to produce a perfect Defence, but don't leave it to the very last minute.


    When you are happy with the content, your Defence should be filed via email as described here:

    1) Print your Defence.
    2) Sign it and date it.
    3) Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    4) Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    5) Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    6) Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defended". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
    7) Wait for your Directions Questionnaire and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES thread to find out exactly what to do with it.
  • AOS is done, will crack on with the rest and post in due course, thanks!.
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