Can someone help me interpret land registry plan

Timberflake1983

Hi all, long story short, my mum is moving into a new rented property and one of her neighbours has claims a piece of land as his which we were told was ours.

I've obtained the land registry plan and can see the outline of the boundary in red which includes the piece of land the neighbour is claiming, however, that piece is shaded a pink colour. Does anyone know what that means? I can't seem to find any information on it.

Thanks!

pinklady21

Is there nothing in the Title Deed which indicates what the area shaded pink is, who has rights over it, what those rights / responsibilities are etc?

davidmcn

There's no general rule about what pink bits mean. It'll be referred to elsewhere in the title.

moneyistooshorttomention

You could take a look at the Land Registry website.

Their Practice Guide 40, supplement 5, appendix 1 shows various coloured in bits and a guide to them.

A pink shaded bit on that says it's "Right of way on other land for use by registered land".

I'd say that that bit of land has a Right of Way over it - but is owned by another land-owner there. The question is as to who is the owner and who has the ROW (ie which is the dominant owner and which is the servient owner).

Timberflake1983

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

You could take a look at the Land Registry website.

Their Practice Guide 40, supplement 5, appendix 1 shows various coloured in bits and a guide to them.

A pink shaded bit on that says it's "Right of way on other land for use by registered land".

I'd say that that bit of land has a Right of Way over it - but is owned by another land-owner there. The question is as to who is the owner and who has the ROW (ie which is the dominant owner and which is the servient owner).

That would make sense as we have to drive over that land to park on the driveway outside my mums house so it sounds like that bit could indeed belong to the neighbour.

I only have the Ordnance Survey Plan for reference, I don't have anything else to go on.

pinklady21

Suggest you get a copy of the deeds from the land registry. It might be that the land is with your property and the neighbour has the right of way over it. Only the deeds can tell you that. Might be wise to get copies of the deeds for both your mother's and her neighbour's properties.
Let us know what you find out!

PasturesNew

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

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A pink shaded bit on that says it's "Right of way on other land for use by registered land".

I'd say that that bit of land has a Right of Way over it - but is owned by another land-owner there. ...

Timberflake1983 wrote: »

.... we have to drive over that land to park on the driveway outside my mums house so it sounds like that bit could indeed belong to the neighbour.

That'd be a match.

So then the question is whether you're breaching that ROW, e.g. say if you're parking on it/adding a 2nd car that's parked on it .... or whether the neighbour's just trying to say "you can't go over there/do that".

A ROW can be pedestrian, or vehicular.... so, if there is a ROW over that land to the driveway it would imply it's vehicular .. but might not be (e.g. maybe the last person parked a caravan there and was mates with the neighbour).

So what's the neighbour actually saying you can/can't do on or over that bit?

moneyistooshorttomention

Agreed - it would be best to make sure you've got copies of both the Title Plan on the one hand and the Register entry on the other hand for both properties.

It costs £3 per document to buy them online from the Land Registry or £7 per document to get a paper copy from the Land Registry. So - worst case analysis of £28 to get paper copies of both documents for both houses from the Land Registry.

I would imagine that it's most likely to be your house that has the ROW and the neighbours house that owns the land - but you won't know for sure until you get those documents.

Bear in mind that people are not allowed to park on a ROW - other than very temporarily in order to load or unload people or goods.

I'm wondering if there has been hassle because it's the neighbour that owns it and you that has the ROW and you've been parking on that ROW (ie for longer than it takes just to load/unload)???

EDIT; You need the paperwork - because, very often, someone is trying to say things are different to what they really are - because it suits them personally. It's a problem I had when I bought my current house and hence had to read up on it.

EachPenny

Not much to add to what's already been said, but if the new property is where the dispute is, and this is a rental, then really it is for the landlord to sort out, rather than you and your mum.

At the very least, the landlord needs to be informed that the neighbour is challenging a right you've been told by the LL you have, because ultimately it is the landlord who will lose out if the neighbour is successful in their claim.

If the LL has made a msitake then there is no point getting into a dispute with the neighbour yourself... and your dispute really would then be with your landlord (charging you rent for something you aren't getting).

Timberflake1983

I've downloaded a copy of the Title register and title plan from the land registry and I must admit I can't make any sense out of it.

The letting agent has advised that a one part of it is ours but the rest belongs to the neighbour.

It's not a huge deal, is its his that's fine its just not what we were lead to believe, I'd just like to get clarity from someone who knows what they're looking at!

moneyistooshorttomention

Are you able to post up details of this Title Plan and/or Title Register here (suitably anonymised)?