Flat owner with share of freehold, wanting a dog to visit.

SarahFlint

Comms69 wrote: »

So you'll need 32 others to agree a change to the rules.


I doubt much action will be taken, but it could be, if the lease allows.

This is what I am concerned about, I didn't know what action could be taken seeing as she is not permanently living there. Just not sure if I can get around it by writing to the management company and just saying she's only there 4 hours every couple of weeks or so, If people start complaining she's there I would understand and ask them not to bring her but I have probably seen my neighbours under 5 times since moving in 6 months ago so I can't imagine they would even know I had her in there.

SarahFlint

gardner1 wrote: »

"She doesn't ever bark and is very well trained".....isn't that what all dog owners say
Its a bit like mothers declaring their little darlings are perfect oblivious to the little g1ts causing havoc

Well I am not her owner so I don't have to declare she is a 'little darling' as some owners would say but I am just stating I have never heard her bark and know she wouldn't use the hallway or my flat as a toilet. If she did either of those I wouldn't allow her round for fear of disturbing other neighbours. I do have a friend with a yappy dog and I don't let her bring her dog over as its not fair on the people around me.

Also I do have to put up with a screaming child above me who loves a good scream and shout around 6:30/7am most days....but that's for another thread!

SarahFlint

hb2 wrote: »

I also live in flat and wouldn't think twice about having someone visit with their dog (well, I would but that's because my cats wouldn't like it!). If the dog were to be causing a nuisance, than it would be reasonable to ask you to stop these visits in future.

Of course I would ask them to not bring her if she was a nuisance as I would be so embarrassed that it was disrupting other people. I have a friend with a dog who barks at any slight noise or anything on the tv and I ask her not to bring her dog over when she visits because it wouldn't be fair on the people around me.

CarrieVS

Option 1: continue as normal unless and until someone complains. If they do, argue your case (that an occasional short visit hardly counts as keeping a dog) if you want to, and if you don't or it's not accepted, ask your friends not to bring her.

Option 2: contact the management company, asking whether having a dog briefly visit your flat requires their consent under [reference/quote relevant clause] in your lease and, if so, will they consent to [circumstances]?

I don't see why you need your lease changed, as it provides for management to give consent. Unless you have reason to think that the management company will be petty about it?

hazyjo

One of your neighbours has too much time on their hands and has put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5.


I would totally ignore it and allow the dog-owner to continue visiting with their dog. What is anyone going to do? Call the police? Managing agents? Freeholder? And how long do you think before they turn up?


Don't get into a ruck. If someone confronts you and says something like 'dogs aren't allowed', just retaliate with something like 'I know, good isn't it - nobody wants a barking dog next door in a block of flats'.

pimento

Dog? What dog?

xylophone

I cannot seeing how a visitor's dog translates into "keeping a dog" - does the lease specifically rule out allowing a visitor with a dog to enter the premises?

If challenged, be polite and explain that the animal is accompanied by its owner on an occasional visit and does not live in your flat.

SarahFlint

CarrieVS wrote: »

Option 1: continue as normal unless and until someone complains. If they do, argue your case (that an occasional short visit hardly counts as keeping a dog) if you want to, and if you don't or it's not accepted, ask your friends not to bring her.

Option 2: contact the management company, asking whether having a dog briefly visit your flat requires their consent under [reference/quote relevant clause] in your lease and, if so, will they consent to [circumstances]?

I don't see why you need your lease changed, as it provides for management to give consent. Unless you have reason to think that the management company will be petty about it?

I think I will go with option 1 still. If I get complaints from people that are legitimate I will tell them they cannot bring her.
I believe it's someone petty in the building not even on my floor who possibly doesn't like dogs. Like I said I could count on 1 hand the amount of times I have seen my direct neighbours in 6 months so its not like I am walking around with a dog all over the building. I know that 2 of these neighbours are new too so wouldn't complain. So if I write to this person they will deny it straight away even though it should be discussed in meetings because we all own the freehold.

SarahFlint

xylophone wrote: »

I cannot seeing how a visitor's dog translates into "keeping a dog" - does the lease specifically rule out allowing a visitor with a dog to enter the premises?

If challenged, be polite and explain that the animal is accompanied by its owner on an occasional visit and does not live in your flat.

No the lease only states about animals being kept in the premises nothing about visitors bringing dogs in apart from the sign on the door but again I think someone from the building has put that up rather than the council.

Red-Squirrel_2

gardner1 wrote: »

"She doesn't ever bark and is very well trained".....isn't that what all dog owners say
Its a bit like mothers declaring their little darlings are perfect oblivious to the little g1ts causing havoc

Even if it did bark, so what? Some non dog owners seem to think they have a human right to never have to be reminded they exist!