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Labourer pay rate?

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  • phill99
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    Can i ask what amount of hours per day...sounds like NMW.

    As said even humpers on agency get £10 minimum :(



    Typically we are on site between 8 and 3.30 / 4.00


    They are Self employed so NMW doesn't apply.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
  • Browntoa
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    Op claiming to be a trained accountant in another of their threads

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  • phill99 wrote: »
    Typically we are on site between 8 and 3.30 / 4.00


    They are Self employed so NMW doesn't apply.


    Fair play to you for getting away with it.:beer:
  • Browntoa wrote: »
    Op claiming to be a trained accountant in another of their threads

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/74702961#Comment_74702961

    You're behind the times, that was last month, this month he wants to be a gas engineer

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5912465/is-a-gas-engineer-a-good-career-choice

    Personally I think he should become a train driver
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  • phill99
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    Fair play to you for getting away with it.:beer:
    I'm not getting away with anything. Check how NMW is applied. it doesn't apply to the self employed.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
  • Hi Stu6871,

    To answer your question:
    - If you're employing the unskilled labourer directly permanently, they're considered an employee. they are under your payroll (PAYE) and you will have to pay the National Minimum Wage. Dependent on the age of the worker, it would be between £3.90 per hour as an apprentice to £8.21 per hour if the worker is 25 years old or older since 1st April 2019. You will have to add National Insurance, Holiday and Pension contributions to this.

    - If you're employing temporarily via a recruitment agency, they're considered a worker and are eligible for the National Minimum Wage too. Typically, a temp unskilled labourer from a recruitment agency would cost you around £11.69 /hour all in (candidate pay rate + statutory payments + agency margin).

    - If the person is self-employed, the National Minimum Wage does not apply, and you don't have to pay any holiday, pension or NI. They may ask for £10-11/hour.

    I hope this helps!
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