Landlord wants new tenant to have acces to measure up

Red-Squirrel_2

Just tell the landlord its not convenient for anybody to come to the house, what measurement does he want to know and you'll tell him? Can't complain about that!

Balabalabala_and_Volare

Legally, you can deny access, that's pretty much the meaning of "exclusive possession". If the landlord wanted access against your wishes, he would have to get a court order.

However, as others have said, is it worth the aggro? The tenancy is ending and I'm sure you have far more important things to concentrate your efforts on.

As a compromise, you could always ask that the measure up visit is also attended by the landlord with a view to getting a signed statement that the property has been maintained in good order and no claim will be made against the deposit. That may stifle any thoughts the landlord has regarding deposit claims and speed up the return of that valuable resource. Win/win?

Balabalabala_and_Volare

AdrianC wrote: »

All very lovely, but your tenancy DOES require you to give access.

So what happens when the landlord reminds you of that, then knocks on the door? I presume he has a key?

And if a tenancy clause allowed for the tenants fingers to be broken if the rent is late? Would that be OK with you.... It IS required by the tenancy, after all.

HINT: Statute trumps contract.

Marvel1

AdrianC wrote: »

All very lovely, but your tenancy DOES require you to give access.

So what happens when the landlord reminds you of that, then knocks on the door? I presume he has a key?

Based on me being in the house: door knocks i don't answer, key left in the lock, cannot open from other side.

Based me out of the house: Key is left in the front door lock as above, I exit and enter through the garden and lane.

MeepleH

I allowed them access and they bounced round the house like a crass pair of puppies.
I have never had a landlord turf me out to replace with a family member in 20 years of being a renter. I find it incredibly unprofessional. As a landlord you should keep your business and your family separate and do right by your tenants, else you're not acting as a professional landlord.
My point - tenants shouldn't be uprooted because your 18 year old grand daughter or any family member needs somewhere to live.
Anyway, I have been caused inconvenience due to this persons lack of professionalism - lesson learned.

Okrib

Why not? It's their property. They can do what they want. What if the boot was on the other foot, you didn't have money to pay the rent but you were obliged to stay and find a way to pay rather than move to a cheaper flat (or in with friends / family?)?

Have you ever moved out when a landlord wanted you to stay? Was that doing right by your landlord? Or did you do what was right for you, given your circumstances?

How long did they take? I would imagine not a huge amount of time. You could have gone out and just let them get on with it.

Pixie5740

Balabalabala_and_Volare wrote: »

And if a tenancy clause allowed for the tenants fingers to be broken if the rent is late? Would that be OK with you.... It IS required by the tenancy, after all.

HINT: Statute trumps contract.

What are you balabbing about? You are comparing apples with oranges. The right to quiet enjoyment of a property is not an absolute right.

saajan_12

MeepleH wrote: »

I would give access for prospective tenants to look around as expected, but access so next tenants can measure stuff is not something I've encountered in 20 years of renting. I can do without this during moving out so want to make sure the landlord is acting correctly.

The LL is acting correctly, and has the contractual right to access providing its reasonable (ie frequency, reasonable notice) which this is. If you breach your contract by refusing access, there may (but more likely may not) be any reprecussions.. so if you're asking whether you can get away with it: yes. Whether its legally correct on your part: no.

Balabalabala_and_Volare wrote: »

And if a tenancy clause allowed for the tenants fingers to be broken if the rent is late? Would that be OK with you.... It IS required by the tenancy, after all. - no, not relevant because you can't contractually agree to bodily harm which is absolute.

HINT: Statute trumps contract.

The statutory right to quiet enjoyment is not absolute, so reasonable access which is brief, notified in advance, not too frequent etc does NOT contravene any statutory laws.

hazyjo

MeepleH wrote: »

I allowed them access and they bounced round the house like a crass pair of puppies.
I have never had a landlord turf me out to replace with a family member in 20 years of being a renter. I find it incredibly unprofessional. As a landlord you should keep your business and your family separate and do right by your tenants, else you're not acting as a professional landlord.
My point - tenants shouldn't be uprooted because your 18 year old grand daughter or any family member needs somewhere to live.
Anyway, I have been caused inconvenience due to this persons lack of professionalism - lesson learned.

What a strange post. I can't see why I'd be any more bitter about a LL allowing family to move in over a stranger. They don't have to tell you why they're giving you notice. Sounds like he only told you in the hope you would be more understanding.


Maybe it was always the plan they would rent the property. Who knows. Perhaps the LL was reluctant to tell you that in the first place because he (prob correctly!) didn't think you would want to take on the tenancy.

Comms69

MeepleH wrote: »

I allowed them access and they bounced round the house like a crass pair of puppies.
I have never had a landlord turf me out to replace with a family member in 20 years of being a renter. I find it incredibly unprofessional. As a landlord you should keep your business and your family separate and do right by your tenants, else you're not acting as a professional landlord.
My point - tenants shouldn't be uprooted because your 18 year old grand daughter or any family member needs somewhere to live.
Anyway, I have been caused inconvenience due to this persons lack of professionalism - lesson learned.

Uhm, how is it any of your business who this LL lets to?