Points to my online licence

Richard53

Herzlos wrote: »

There's a pretty big difference in attitude between most people going a bit fast on occasion and someone having a 2nd court appearance for speeding, having been caught at least 4 times (one was a 6-pointer).
That he didn't modify his behaviour after nearly being banned in court last time, implies he's got no respect for the law or driving, and I don't think anyone on here would be surprised if the OP came back asking for advice after another incident.

Fair point. He's at the extreme end of the speeding spectrum, that's true. Someone who thinks the rules should apply to everyone except him.

Mercdriver

Herzlos wrote: »

There's a pretty big difference in attitude between most people going a bit fast on occasion and someone having a 2nd court appearance for speeding, having been caught at least 4 times (one was a 6-pointer).
That he didn't modify his behaviour after nearly being banned in court last time, implies he's got no respect for the law or driving, and I don't think anyone on here would be surprised if the OP came back asking for advice after another incident.




Maybe he's learned his lesson this time though, and will sit out his 5 years without driving (or at least wait until insurance is bearable again).

It is still quite a jump from being a habitual speeder to someone who will drive while disqualified and those that will have such disregard that they will drive uninsured.

Jt146

I agree, driving without insurance or while disqualified is on another level.

His punishment extends much further than a ban and a fine. The leniency was given so he could maintain employment for proven exceptional hardship and take ‘annual leave’ for the duration of the ban. Despite the consideration of the court, this obviously won’t work out as he could not be insured on the company vans at 12 points, even before the ban.

Scrapit

Jt146 wrote: »

I agree, driving without insurance or while disqualified is on another level.

His punishment extends much further than a ban and a fine. The leniency was given so he could maintain employment for proven exceptional hardship and take ‘annual leave’ for the duration of the ban. Despite the consideration of the court, this obviously won’t work out as he could not be insured on the company vans at 12 points, even before the ban.

Good. This sounds harsh but the lesson isn't being learnt.

Herzlos

Mercdriver wrote: »

It is still quite a jump from being a habitual speeder to someone who will drive while disqualified and those that will have such disregard that they will drive uninsured.

I'm not so sure. He obviously didn't care enough the first time he was at court and risked losing his license/job. It's not a huge leap to driving without appropriate insurance, especially the OP has another thread which is basically "Is it OK to lie to a car insurance company about convictions?"

Jt146 wrote: »

His punishment extends much further than a ban and a fine.

It's supposed to. It's meant to force him to modify his behavior. His huge insurance premiums reflect the risk that he's a habitual speeder and precisely the sort of driver they don't want to insure.

Despite the consideration of the court, this obviously won’t work out as he could not be insured on the company vans at 12 points, even before the ban.

I thought he was already on 12 points before this, so how was he driving the van previously?


Can he drive something else? I know someone who was in a very similar situation where his work couldn't insure him on a van, but he could (just) get insured in an estate car.


It might just be easier for the boyfriend to find a job that doesn't involve driving until he's mature enough to drive.