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Am I being unreasonable?

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  • RedFinn
    RedFinn Posts: 26 Forumite
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    Comms69, the world has moved on from the workhouse.
  • Comms69
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    RedFinn wrote: »
    Comms69, the world has moved on from the workhouse.



    Why bother asking for advice?


    How long have you worked there; if under two years you can be sacked for no reason whatsoever.


    Even if over two years, they could make it difficult. I suspect your hours are not set in stone.
  • RedFinn
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    Comms69 wrote: »
    Why bother asking for advice?


    How long have you worked there; if under two years you can be sacked for no reason whatsoever.


    Even if over two years, they could make it difficult. I suspect your hours are not set in stone.

    I wasn't asking for advice on what the law is concerning dependants which you seem to be rather fixated on, thanks all the same.
  • Comms69
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    RedFinn wrote: »
    I wasn't asking for advice on what the law is concerning dependants which you seem to be rather fixated on, thanks all the same.



    ... Ok:


    You employer can decline or cancel annual leave.


    Your employer doesn't have to accommodate your life.


    This is a voluntary relationship, if you don't like it, look elsewhere.


    Oh and your employer can dictate when you take your leave.
  • RedFinn
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    Comms69 wrote: »
    Why bother asking for advice?


    How long have you worked there; if under two years you can be sacked for no reason whatsoever.


    Even if over two years, they could make it difficult. I suspect your hours are not set in stone.
    Comms69 wrote: »
    ... Ok:


    You employer can decline or cancel annual leave.


    Your employer doesn't have to accommodate your life.


    This is a voluntary relationship, if you don't like it, look elsewhere.


    Oh and your employer can dictate when you take your leave.

    I suspect you yearn for a return to the Victorian era :smiley: However, thanks for your input although I imagine any relationship between you and being reasonable is loose, to say the least.
  • Comms69
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    RedFinn wrote: »
    I suspect you yearn for a return to the Victorian era :smiley: However, thanks for your input although I imagine any relationship between you and being reasonable is loose, to say the least.



    Why would I, I'm still an employee...


    I'm telling you how it is, these aren't opinions.


    Does it matter if I, a stranger on the internet, tell you I agree with you morally? You cant go to your manager and say these 12 strangers on line think I'm right to be upset...
  • warby68
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    RedFinn wrote: »
    Warby68, that's just it, if we were talking about this week I would agree with you, however (at the time of asking) it was two weeks in advance. Common policy is to either put it out as available hours to other colleagues who may want the hours, if no takers then tough, I would have to work. His blank refusal to do even countenance it leads me to believe there is plenty of credence to the back scratching comment.

    You said he is new and may be developing his own system within the formal policy. What you refer to as common policy may be changing.

    You clearly feel picked on but be careful it isn't just a reaction to not getting your way.

    In my place of employment if you haven't booked half term when the main holiday booking period starts (which is almost 12m in advance) you won't get it. From a managerial perspective someone asking for leave over half term with only 2 weeks notice would look either a bit naive or a bit of a cheeky chancer in all honesty. Appreciate it may be different in shift working.
  • RedFinn
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    Comms69 wrote: »
    Why would I, I'm still an employee...


    I'm telling you how it is, these aren't opinions.


    Does it matter if I, a stranger on the internet, tell you I agree with you morally? You cant go to your manager and say these 12 strangers on line think I'm right to be upset...

    A lot of your 'advice' contains factual errors which you would do well to educate yourself about, all employers have a duty to provide support to working parents and, where necessary, provide parental leave. Even though that wasn't my question, you have made issue enough of it to warrant pulling up on.

    You're a pretty bitter individual and should really not be on a public forum giving duff advice when it comes to UK employment legislation and safeguards.
  • Comms69
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    RedFinn wrote: »
    A lot of your 'advice' contains factual errors which you would do well to educate yourself about, all employers have a duty to provide support to working parents - not true. and, where necessary, provide parental leave - emergency dependants leave is 1: unpaid, 2: usually a few hours, a day at most . Even though that wasn't my question, you have made issue enough of it to warrant pulling up on. - you're not asking about a poorly child, your asking about annual leave.

    You're a pretty bitter individual and should really not be on a public forum giving duff advice when it comes to UK employment legislation and safeguards.
    Another "not what I wanted to hear" poster....


    What you think is not what the law says.
  • RedFinn
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    warby68 wrote: »
    You said he is new and may be developing his own system within the formal policy. What you refer to as common policy may be changing.

    You clearly feel picked on but be careful it isn't just a reaction to not getting your way.

    In my place of employment if you haven't booked half term when the main holiday booking period starts (which is almost 12m in advance) you won't get it. From a managerial perspective someone asking for leave over half term with only 2 weeks notice would look either a bit naive or a bit of a cheeky chancer in all honesty. Appreciate it may be different in shift working.
    I booked it in January when the new year holiday allocations were being made, I questioned it then and was assured that it could be addressed via shift-swap etc nearer the time by the (then) Team Leader.

    He isn't developing his own protocols, as it is ongoing in my own department and across all others, along with the hundreds of other stores. He's already had grievances raised against him by quite a few people, I take on board your point about my feeling 'picked on' hence my asking for other opinions. However, this is less about the day in question now as much as the back scratching issue.
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