We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Worst average return on 60% equity portfolio over the next 20 years?

12346»

Comments

  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    rathernot wrote: »
    This is what I'm trying to work out - is there actually any safe haven other than cash if there's a downturn?

    Hence why Gilts are still in demand from institutional investors. Better a guaranteed return than none at all.
  • Audaxer
    Audaxer Posts: 3,547 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Correlation has all but disappeared. What do you regard as bonds? The original scenarios were based on US Treasuries. Yields on Gilts are currently extremely low. Blue chip corporate bonds only offer 2.5% to 3%. Little different to the rate of inflation. Investors have little choice but to go for equities. Therein lies the conundrum. Portfolios are exposed to a high degree of risk. At a time in life when this may not be the option desired.
    As bonds look so poor at the moment, and I'm not really sure if there is a benefit from absolute return funds either as defensive assets, maybe cash is the best option.

    So if you wanted to go passive with a 60% equities portfolio of £100k, maybe it would be better investing £60k in a VLS100 with the other £40k in the best cash rates you could get. The cash would be have to be held outside the S&S ISA, but you could rebalance once a year back to a 60/40 split using part of your ISA allowance if you had to top the equities back up to 60%. Is there a possibility that could produce better returns than a VLS60?
  • A_T
    A_T Posts: 975 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    rathernot wrote: »
    This is what I'm trying to work out - is there actually any safe haven other than cash if there's a downturn?

    Depends on the scale and nature of the downturn. Historically treasuries have gone up during times of serious equity distress.

    Screenshot_at_2018_10_07_18_55_14.jpg
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.