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When Banks don't Act on FOS Findings

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  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    Yes the word backstop makes me shudder..

    Is there any value in complaining to TSB about the delay as per FOS?
  • masonic
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    Cotta wrote: »
    Yes the word backstop makes me shudder..

    Is there any value in complaining to TSB about the delay as per FOS?
    I don't think it will help matters. As you know I complained to the FOS about TSB and got awarded compensation that TSB did pay. Shortly thereafter I had a different problem so complained again. I have been getting holding letters every 4 weeks for about 6 months since then. In the meantime my problem resolved itself.
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    masonic wrote: »
    I don't think it will help matters. As you know I complained to the FOS about TSB and got awarded compensation that TSB did pay. Shortly thereafter I had a different problem so complained again. I have been getting holding letters every 4 weeks for about 6 months since then. In the meantime my problem resolved itself.

    Yes the adjudicator did say a future complaint to TSB would default back to them, however I might take this approach as a backstop (thanks Eskbanker).

    My main approach will be a complaint about the current logjam with FOS to FOS, should this be made through the same avenue that a complaint about a business would be made?
  • masonic
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    Cotta wrote: »
    My main approach will be a complaint about the current logjam with FOS to FOS, should this be made through the same avenue that a complaint about a business would be made?
    It should be made by the process outlined by eskbanker:
    eskbanker wrote: »
    To my mind step 1 would be Cotta telling the adjudicator that he's initiating the published FOS complaint process, stating that he's not happy with either of the options she's advising and that he feels that she should continue to pursue TSB to accept or reject her decision, within a stated reasonable timescale.
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    masonic wrote: »
    It should be made by the process outlined by eskbanker:

    According to FOS I should contact a Manager but there are no directions on how to contact a Manager.

    If you don’t feel the problem has been sorted out, you can speak to one of our managers. They’ll look into your concerns about the level of service we’ve given you.

    The manager you speak to will depend on what you’re unhappy about. We’ll make sure your complaint gets to someone well placed to address your concerns.

    They’ll reply to your complaint within 15 working days. If they need more time, they’ll let you know and explain why.

    The manager won’t look again at the outcome of your case, but they will try and put things right where possible. And they’ll let you know that if you’re still unhappy, you can contact the independent assessor – Ms Amerdeep Somal.
  • masonic
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    Cotta wrote: »
    According to FOS I should contact a Manager but there are no directions on how to contact a Manager.

    If you don’t feel the problem has been sorted out, you can speak to one of our managers. They’ll look into your concerns about the level of service we’ve given you.

    The manager you speak to will depend on what you’re unhappy about. We’ll make sure your complaint gets to someone well placed to address your concerns.

    They’ll reply to your complaint within 15 working days. If they need more time, they’ll let you know and explain why.

    The manager won’t look again at the outcome of your case, but they will try and put things right where possible. And they’ll let you know that if you’re still unhappy, you can contact the independent assessor – Ms Amerdeep Somal.
    The process is to initiate the complaint through the adjudicator. If the adjudicator won't listen to your complaint, then there is an 0800 number for you to call, but this shouldn't be necessary as the adjudicator should refer your complaint to the appropriate manager if she can't resolve your complaint.
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    I sent the following this morning:


    Dear X

    Thank you for your help on this case.

    Whilst I appreciate the work you have done I feel as per FOS procedures the correct action now is to refer this to a Manager rather than an Ombudsman for review.

    Regards
    Cotta
  • Cotta wrote: »
    I sent the following this morning:


    Dear X

    Thank you for your help on this case.

    Whilst I appreciate the work you have done I feel as per FOS procedures the correct action now is to refer this to a Manager rather than an Ombudsman for review.

    Regards
    Cotta

    I'm a bit confused by your response here. Surely there are now two separate issues rather than one:

    1. The original complaint against TSB which should be referred to the ombudsman if the TBS continue to do nothing
    2. The complaint against the FOS for the poor handling of the above TSB complaint, which should be referred to the manager

    I may be mistaken but I feel that your email muddies the waters.
    Debt Totals July 2019::
    [STRIKE]£350 Natwest Credit Card [/STRIKE]/ ]Now £0 (paid off and closed 04/2017) £15,500 postgrad loan from parents/ Now £7,000 £5,000 sister loan/ Now £0[STRIKE]£500 train ticket loan from parents [/STRIKE]/ Now £0 (paid off 16/02/18)[STRIKE]£2,000 Overdraft[/STRIKE] Now £0 (paid off 09/03/18) £1,967.83 Barclays 0% card Now £0
    Total £7,000
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    edited 11 February 2019 at 1:15PM
    I'm a bit confused by your response here. Surely there are now two separate issues rather than one:

    1. The original complaint against TSB which should be referred to the ombudsman if the TBS continue to do nothing
    2. The complaint against the FOS for the poor handling of the above TSB complaint, which should be referred to the manager

    I may be mistaken but I feel that your email muddies the waters.

    My complaint is that FOS are doing nothing about TSB's continued delay and the only option they are offering me is that if I am unhappy with the recommendation I can refer this to the Ombudsman. I think speaking to a Manager will give good clarity overall.
  • masonic
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    I don't think your email constitutes a complaint, in fact it suggests you are happy with the service you have received. If you don't tell the Adjudicator you are unsatisfied, then you haven't fulfilled the first part of the complaints process, and therefore would not be able to skip forward to the second.

    I doubt this will be passed to a manager based on what you have written. Most likely your email will receive no response, or you'll just be reminded of the previous options and that your case remains closed.
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