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When Banks don't Act on FOS Findings

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  • eskbanker
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    As the defined FOS process is that a case can be escalated to an ombudsman if either party (complainer or financial institution) is dissatisfied with the final ruling from an adjudicator, perhaps it's worth simply saying to the adjudicator that she should go ahead and make her final ruling, making it clear that if you disagree with this ruling then you intend to exercise your right to escalate?

    The increasing pressure to agree to close it off, even though some of the issues remain unresolved, is just another one of the ever-lengthening list of problems with the adjudicator's handling of the case....
  • Cotta
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    eskbanker wrote: »

    The increasing pressure to agree to close it off, even though some of the issues remain unresolved, is just another one of the ever-lengthening list of problems with the adjudicator's handling of the case....

    In TSB's view the unresolved issues are all resolved.


    - Online access - not their fault.
    - Missing interest will be posted out.
  • eskbanker
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    Cotta wrote: »
    In TSB's view the unresolved issues are all resolved.


    - Online access - not their fault.
    - Missing interest will be posted out.
    But of course the role of FOS is to understand each party's perspective and make a decision, so if you put up a decent counter-argument to TSB's assertions then that should convince the adjudicator (or ultimately the ombudsman) to see things your way.

    Having to close down an account and issue a cheque really should be seen as an embarrassing climbdown for TSB rather than vindication that it's not their fault, and if extensive and repeated troubleshooting by a specialist consisted largely of resetting a password then that tells its own story!
  • masonic
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    complaint.info at financial-ombudsman.org.uk

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I wish to make a formal complaint regarding case XXX, which is currently being adjudicated through your office. The Adjudicator involved is refusing to make a decision, despite us reaching an impasse over compensation, which her manager described as "quite low". I believe she is biased towards TSB and is unfairly pressuring me to close the case even though I remain unhappy. She has accepted demands imposed upon her by TSB without question, but has refused to accept any of the suggestions I have made.

    I have lost confidence in this Adjudicator and request that she issue her final decision so that I can reject it and have my case reviewed by an Ombudsman as is my right.

    Yours Faithfully,

    Cotta
  • eskbanker
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    I like the letter but personally would consider keeping my powder dry at this stage and just get to the final decision (coming soon anyway) before outlining a range of detailed concerns about the outcome and (lack of) resolution when escalating to the ombudsman, and then potentially another range of concerns about the adjudicator's conduct in a formal complaint at a later stage.

    FOS always advise that complainants should exhaust an institution's complaints process before escalating to FOS, so there is an argument that going through the FOS's process should be completed prior to raising any formal complaint about how they've handled it.
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    This saga goes on, the below arrived in my inbox at 5pm.

    Dear Mr. Cotta,

    I'm sorry to learn that you're unhappy with TSB's offer. As advised earlier we are not at the stage of referring this to an Ombudsman, however my Manager is deliberating with me in relation to a final response. Additionally as outlined previously I'm recommending compensation to the value of £75 be awarded on top of what TSB have offered.

    It is being placed on record that you were unable to outline a workable and evidenced compensation request. I feel using the previous £500 as a baseline to request the same amount again stating you were at least doubly inconvenienced was a misguided approach.

    Finally a conversation with my colleague at TSB has outlined they now feel that since you've been locked out of your account for so long you should be reliant without it, therefore negating the impact this has on you. TSB have also asked why if the funds were needed so urgently did you open the account for its saving's rate? This leads them to believe this was a holding /saving account and not one for regular expenditure.

    I have now exhausted my avenues of resolution and once my Manager approves the final response it will be sent to you.

    Kind Regards
    FOS
  • masonic
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    Cotta wrote: »
    TSB have also asked why if the funds were needed so urgently did you open the account for its saving's rate? This leads them to believe this was a holding /saving account and not one for regular expenditure.
    I suppose in the parallel universe in which they reside, they issued you with a debit card and allowed to you make payments in and out of the account - you know, those things that are pre-requisites of using it as your main account.

    If you were just in it for the savings, your balance never would have exceeded £1,500.
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    masonic wrote: »
    I suppose in the parallel universe in which they reside, they issued you with a debit card and allowed to you make payments in and out of the account - you know, those things that are pre-requisites of using it as your main account.

    If you were just in it for the savings, your balance never would have exceeded £1,500.

    In fairness TSB never issued me a debit card and I was never allowed to make payments out of the account other than the small direct debits that were attached to the account at the switch.
  • masonic
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    Cotta wrote: »
    In fairness TSB never issued me a debit card and I was never allowed to make payments out of the account other than the small direct debits that were attached to the account at the switch.
    Not issuing a debit card (actually I thought they issued them and sent them to a previous address), and not allowing you to make payments were what happened in this universe, not the parallel universe to which I was referring above ;)
  • Cotta
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    masonic wrote: »
    Not issuing a debit card (actually I thought they issued them and sent them to a previous address), and not allowing you to make payments were what happened in this universe, not the parallel universe to which I was referring above ;)

    We think it went to the old address but nobody knows and TSB can't confirm it.
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