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CCJ for parking ticket
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I called Gladstone and asked for an acknowledgement of payment. Also noticed that the CCJ is now gone, so they obviously informed the court.
In other news, UK CPM have now submitted their "side" of the story to the IAS. It disregards entirely everything I have said, and simply repeats what it has already said; we put up signs, you parked without a permit, so we're right and you are wrong.
I'm not sure what the point of an appeal process is if no mitigating factors are going to be considered by the adjudicator. Anyway, they know where I live this time so I'll get my day in court if it comes to it.0 -
Why is your vehicle attracting parking charge notices?
is this an own space issue - ie your getting tickets in places wher eyou are entitled to park?From the Plain Language Commission:
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"0 -
Why did you ignore the specific advice not to appeal to IAS both here in your thread (#8) and in the Newbies FAQ thread which explains why you don't go to an IAS appeal?jronnquist wrote: »
In other news, UK CPM have now submitted their "side" of the story to the IAS. It disregards entirely everything I have said, and simply repeats what it has already said; we put up signs, you parked without a permit, so we're right and you are wrong.
I'm not sure what the point of an appeal process is if no mitigating factors are going to be considered by the adjudicator. Anyway, they know where I live this time so I'll get my day in court if it comes to it.0 -
UKCPM - currently the most litigious parking company in the UK. Armed with an IAS decision in their favour in their hands, this is almost inevitably heading to a county court hearing.
Prepare well to give you the best chance of success.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Why is your vehicle attracting parking charge notices?
is this an own space issue - ie your getting tickets in places where you are entitled to park?
It was a rental van. The van was too big to get through the tunnel to my friend's designated space inside the courtyard. I was helping her move out. I explained it all to CPM and they couldn't have cared less.0 -
Why do you think they should have cared some? You do realise they are not there to help you, or look after your interests?I explained it all to CPM and they couldn't have cared less.
You need to get over that hurdle first so you can deal wth this. I'm afraid that well gone are the days when everyone felt an entitlement to park wherever they wanted - and get away with it with impunity.
Did you read the signs at the parking location? What did they say?Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Why did you ignore the specific advice not to appeal to IAS both here in your thread (#8) and in the Newbies FAQ thread which explains why you don't go to an IAS appeal?
I appreciate what you are saying. But I think in some cases, exhausting the appeal process is a good way of making it clear to a court - should it come to it - how CPM behaves. I also want to be able to present the fact that the IAS is a de facto subsidiary of Gladstone Solicitors once the letters from them begin to arrive.
As an example, the "evidence" submitted by CPM includes a picture of the rental van that was ticketed, taken next to a wall with their sign on it. There are other signs on the property, including one at the entrance, but the sign in the picture is one I never would have seen, and this can be clearly proven with a Google Maps picture of the property and a few arrows. The point being to demonstrate that CPM is too focused on its cash-harvesting goals to actually pay any serious attention to what it does on a case-by-case basis.
Also, I am not appealing on the grounds that I may or may not have been the driver, or that the van was not rented by me. I can't. The hire company has already confirmed both as fact anyway. I am appealing on the simple basis that CPMs restrictions in this case, if taken literally, will, in certain instances, become a restriction on the freedom and ability of residents to go about their lives to an extent that is beyond merely unreasonable. I understand that CPM (and likely the IAS) will disregard this argument out of hand. But a judge will not. And I think that having tried twice can only work in my favor.
There are, of course, other arguments should it come to a court appearance. And I will be making hearty use of the resources on here if that happens. I don't know if their signs are up to scratch or not, but I have plenty of pictures of them now. The number on the sign - the one I presume you are meant to call if you are "unsure" - is a premium rate number that charges 55p a minute. I don't know if that's a legal factor or not. I do know that I called it and spent 5 minutes on hold before hanging up, and it cost me almost £3. I'd be curious to know what a court would make of that.0 -
On a related note. I spoke to someone at the property in question the other day (when I stopped by to take pictures of the signs) and they told me that supermarket delivery vans and pizza delivery drivers going upstairs to deliver food regularly get tickets. Does that sound right? I don't want to sound naive, but if that does happen I don't think there's a judge in the land who would support UK CPM trying to get money out of Dominoes or Sainsburys.0
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jronnquist wrote: »On a related note. I spoke to someone at the property in question the other day (when I stopped by to take pictures of the signs) and they told me that supermarket delivery vans and pizza delivery drivers going upstairs to deliver food regularly get tickets. Does that sound right? I don't want to sound naive, but if that does happen I don't think there's a judge in the land who would support UK CPM trying to get money out of Dominoes or Sainsburys.
But you already know UKCPM are serial scammers, anything
that moves they will ticket it
I do find this amusing that Sainsbury's are given tickets,
now they know what motorists feel like in their car parks
when the scammers they employ go on the attack0 -
If the amount Gladstones claimed was in excess of £200 they may have committed a fraud, how much was the ciaim?You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0
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