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DMP mutual support thread part 13 !!

edited 13 March 2019 at 10:03AM in Debt-Free Wannabe
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  • edited 1 July at 8:25AM
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    edited 1 July at 8:25AM
    Morning, today my first DMP payment went out of my account but also first Direct who had told me they were giving me 2 months breathing space took my usual monthly payment from my account, I have now spoken to them on the phone and they are reversing the payment (phew) but also Monzo charged the interest on my overdraft even though they said they would stop all fees and charges. 

    Nat
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  • Suseka97Suseka97 Forumite
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    panda_magic said:...........I've also noted that some of the other accounts haven't defaulted (but have stopped interest, I think. ) 
    I'm coming up to my annual review, so given the general recommendation to build an EF and not pay much for the first 6months. Is it too late to drastically reduce payments and force tescos (and others) hands I. feel bad for the creditors who have treated me well, can I stop only my payments to tesco and those charging interest, or will payplan insist on paying everyone pro rata. Apart from tesco, I'm relatively happy and don't want to rock the boat, but the interest will add about another 7 months to the payment plan.
    The answer is yes, Payplan will want to keep paying everyone on a pro rata basis - so the only way to achieve what you want to do is to go self-managed.  Doing so will allow you to keep up the payment arrangements with those who have defaulted and you can stop payments to those who have not - assuming that's what you want to do.
  • Suseka97Suseka97 Forumite
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    natlie said:
    Morning, today my first DMP payment went out of my account but also first Direct who had told me they were giving me 2 months breathing space took my usual monthly payment from my account and Monzo charged the interest on my overdraft even though they said they would stop all fees and charges. Feeling really disappointed, have i just lost this money now? as it will be coming from my EF :(  Nat
    Possibly.  All you can do now is contact First Direct and ask them to refund the payment and also contact Monzo and remind them of their agreement to stop all fees and charges.   But above all, you need to cancel all DDs relating to these accounts - that's usually one of the first things to do.  Anyway, it's worth a shot.
  • Suseka97Suseka97 Forumite
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    ditty1234 said:..........How do I word it to Stepchange, what do I tell Creditors I got a text and email from PRA today, do I have to reply - I probably should let them know what is going on. 

    In the background I have 2 HSBC accounts (Loan and overdraft) that has not been defaulted yet since last March and I am so annoyed. But If I contact them it will just keep going for even longer. So this payment break is partly to force defaults w HSBC.

    Any suggestions? My DMP is running for 16 years, but I only have my son home one more year, and after that I will focus 100 % on my debt, and moving to a cheaper place, but that is not possible at the moment.

    I am thinking about going self managed, but would rather wait for about an other year or so, as I’ve got lots of other things on at the moment. 

    Given your work situation, your best bet would be to go self-managed - or you can speak with SC and tell them (or remind them) that you have no regular income to speak of so the DMP needs to stay on hold.  Going SM is no big deal - just takes a few letters and you're done.  Then in November, assuming you are able to restart work, you can rework your I&E to reflect your situation and reset your DMP.  As for your creditors, if if were me I'd be writing to tell them you have no current employment and so the DMP will be suspended until further notice.  It's always a good idea to let them know what's happening, for one thing it'll help stop the flurry of letters you're liking to receive otherwise.
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    Thanks @Suseka97 I have had the payment reversed, I phoned to cancel the standing order three weeks ago, which they had a record of but they said it the funds are available they will take the payment, which means I may have to change bank accounts as my main account and loan are with FD. I really don't want to leave them as they have been brilliant in the 13 years I have had my account with them but also don't want to be doing this every month
    DMP: £30,668 29,582.50
    EF: £1620.44/£5000
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  • Suseka97Suseka97 Forumite
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    natlie said:
    Thanks @Suseka97 I have had the payment reversed, I phoned to cancel the standing order three weeks ago, which they had a record of but they said it the funds are available they will take the payment, which means I may have to change bank accounts as my main account and loan are with FD. I really don't want to leave them as they have been brilliant in the 13 years I have had my account with them but also don't want to be doing this every month
    Ah, so therein lies your problem.   You have a debt with FD and you still bank with them... that's a no no.  It sounds as if they are using the 'right to offset' and so I'm sorry to say that you do need to change banks.  Again, that's another 'first rule of thumb'.  I had debts with my bank and whilst I had banked with them for over 20 years, it still didn't matter when it came to the DMP - I had to move bank accounts.  Its a bit of a pain, yes - but it draws a line under things and gives you a clean slate with your new bank.  
  • Mick1000Mick1000 Forumite
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    Hi
    So after income change for partner (now zero), probably time to start a DMP after a while of juggling debt following lots of irresponsible over-commitment on our part. SOA below. Within a couple years and income will increase if partner can return to work, therefore can avoid more drastic debt management solutions. 

    Will go self-managed but my question is around the pro-rata'ing. Some debts I already have arrangements for that are already low/good value (good value questionable perhaps). For example the debt with lloyds I am paying back £67 a month interest free, and will be gone in 10 months or so maybe less. I think i'd like to keep that as is, rather than reduce that payment. Theory being its gone pretty soon and one less thing to deal with if it stays the same. Would then once gone readjust DMP to spread the 67.Maybe thats the wrong thing to do and i should pro-rata it - as it doesnt matte how long it takes i guess. But lets say i definitely wanted to keep it at 67 even if thats not best dmp practice... how do i handle letting other creditors know when it comes to the I&E forms? And do creditors insist on telling them what each payment is going to be?

    Thanks all x


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    MBNA Credit Card...............2497......80........25
    Santander Credit Card..........3200......120.......28
    Aqua Credit Card...............3200......120.......25
    Next Store Card................2900......80........29
    Paypal Credit..................1100......50........29
    Lloyds overdraft...............550.......67........0
    Barclaycard Credit Ca..........500.......20........24
    Lloyds Credit Card.............500.......15........19
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    Sainsburys Loan................10100.....343.......14.1
    Lendable Loan..................2700......70........16.9
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  • spreadtraderspreadtrader Forumite
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    Hi everyone just a bit of advice please as not sure if next step to take.
    Basically stopped paying my monthly payments in December and advised the 3 creditors that I am in financial difficulty. Got a letter from each recently saying they are registering defaults if I don’t pay and I have received a confirmation from BC today saying account is defaulted and I have to pay the full balance otherwise they may take further action.
    i have just sent them a soa and with the current situation I can only make very small payment to them, what if they don’t accept it? I’m hoping to increase when my situation hopefully improve but that might be next year niw😱
    BTW all the accounts are old mbna back to 95 
    BC 2005 when it was egg I think
    thx
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  • scot23scot23 Forumite
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    Hi, not been on for a while but finally making progress. My DAS/DPP has been approved and first payment starts in Aug. Just wondering what happens to my online banking? Will my overdraft still show when I log into app or will halifax and RBS cancel these accounts. Also will i still receive statements from my other debts? I keep getting paper statements from Argos saying late payment but they already ‘passed’ it over to Moorcroft. Thanks again for all the advice. It’s such a relief to know I am on the right track now.😀
  • sourcratessourcrates Forumite, Board Guide
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    Hi everyone just a bit of advice please as not sure if next step to take.
    Basically stopped paying my monthly payments in December and advised the 3 creditors that I am in financial difficulty. Got a letter from each recently saying they are registering defaults if I don’t pay and I have received a confirmation from BC today saying account is defaulted and I have to pay the full balance otherwise they may take further action.
    i have just sent them a soa and with the current situation I can only make very small payment to them, what if they don’t accept it? I’m hoping to increase when my situation hopefully improve but that might be next year niw😱
    BTW all the accounts are old mbna back to 95 
    BC 2005 when it was egg I think
    thx

    Hi,
    Defaults are good, default notice standard wording gives you 14 days to repay full balance, further action will be sale of your account to a debt purchasor.
    Should hold off on payments, creditors just sell accounts on if they are unhappy for any reason.
    CCA request may be to your advantage, most egg agreements were deficiant, as were some MBNA .
    Let this run its natural course, the new owners will write to you shortly.
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