Schools providing Sanitary protection

Red-Squirrel_2

phryne wrote: »

Because it's infantilising people, instead of assuming that - shock horror - they might take responsibility for themselves and their own actions, or lack thereof. And it's not equipping them with the skills they will need as adults. The result of which will have knock-on effects on society as well as the individuals themselves.

How exactly is a child supposed to take responsibility here, get a job? Steal their pads maybe?

Smodlet

Clearly we should put Comms69/Guest101, phryne and the other Daily Wailers in charge of everyone's finances and just issue food/fuel/SP/whatever vouchers to everyone who is not them or richer than them.

So that's why we need :money:!

Smodlet

Sunny_Intervals wrote: »

The argument that we shouldn't do things because some gits might take advantage has never sat well with me.


People commit benefit fraud and they won't all get caught out--should no-one get benefits? People might abuse food banks--no food parcels for anyone? People might abuse any of the gazzillions of grants available for all kinds of purposes--close them all down?


If someone is taking several a day every month, I think that's a good reason to have a word with the parents about why they aren't providing for their kids and try to get the family the help they need, but I don't think it's a good reason to not do it at all.

Precisely and thank you for saying what I meant much better than I did, Sunny Intervals. After all, we might as well condemn all really rich people as tax dodgers when some of them might actually be honest... Yeah.

Anyone watching that J Paul Getty thing on BBC1? He has to have been a sociopath at the very least. Cameron's "family" has off-shore accounts... Should we tar all Tories with the same brush?

Rosemary7391

Sunny_Intervals wrote: »

The argument that we shouldn't do things because some gits might take advantage has never sat well with me.


People commit benefit fraud and they won't all get caught out--should no-one get benefits? People might abuse food banks--no food parcels for anyone? People might abuse any of the gazzillions of grants available for all kinds of purposes--close them all down?


If someone is taking several a day every month, I think that's a good reason to have a word with the parents about why they aren't providing for their kids and try to get the family the help they need, but I don't think it's a good reason to not do it at all.

All of those things are much more easily policed though. Have you never seen a toilet with the paper all strewn about?





My point is if they're just available in the toilets for everyone we're not going to know who is using them so no chance to have a quiet word with the parents. I think I said a while back I preferred having them available on request for that reason.

Kim_kim

KxMx wrote: »

As I posted The Pill didn't do much for me, though I did take 2 packs together to reduce the number of periods. GP & Nurse knew this.

Due to my weight 5 years ago I was changed to the PoP and have never looked back. What passes as a period now is light bleeding for a couple days 3-4 times a year. In fact i tend to find cramping the worse part!

It really is a case of finding what suits the individual's circumstances, because what hasn't worked for the poster above has been so brilliant for me.

What’s the PoP? My daughter suffers with heavy periods.
I’ve had the menopause a few years ago, but all my life my periods were short & light, I was lucky.
My mum gave me my first pack when I first started, after that I bought my own, but I had enough pocket money to do so.
I never carried them around with me, but I was always light enough that knickers could hold it till I got home.

What’s a mooncup like? I have visions of it being like the little clear plastic cup you used to get with night nurse!

I think it would be a fab idea to have Tesco’s basic towels in every school for every girl.

Smodlet

Surely it must be about education and is that not what parents first and schools second are supposed to be for? Why are girls still in a position where they are taught to be embarrassed about a perfectly natural, unavoidable (without chemical interference) bodily function? Yes, embarrassment does have to be taught. Is a horse embarrassed when it defecates in the company of its herd? Of course not.

I remember practically dying of embarrassment when I had to go to the local newsagent/general store run by an old, married couple and had to ask the only person available, the husband, for sanitary towels. He just turned away from me and I wanted the floor to open up and swallow me. Fortunately his wife, while in the back of the shop, was within earshot and just swanned in and said, "Yes, love, size 1 or size 2?" Further embarrassment when I had to ask for size 2 which was surely only for married women who had had children, wasn't it? I bled like a stuck pig every month; I needed size 2.

This was 40 years ago! Are you seriously telling me nothing has improved since then? If not, it is high time it did and whatever happens, sorry, little girls, you will have to grow up and get over the embarrassment just as every generation before you has had to do.

Rosemary7391

Sunny_Intervals wrote: »

Maybe a combination of having the sanpro available in the office and teaching people (boys, girls and staff) to be less embarrassed/squeamish about periods so it's not a big deal to go and ask for sanpro?

It would be easier to find a solution if everything wasn't so bloody awkward and embarrassing at that age and schools weren't full of bullies looking for anything to pick on.

I actually think it is really important that we talk more about periods - it shouldn't be embarrassing, they're perfectly normal. But most women don't really know what normal is because never talk about it!

Kim_kim wrote: »

What’s a mooncup like? I have visions of it being like the little clear plastic cup you used to get with night nurse!

Mine is a clear cup, yes, with a little stem on it that you use to pull it out. It's flexible so you fold it up to put it in, then it pops open and makes a seal so everything stays where it ought. You trim the stem to the right size for you. They have photos and a lot of helpful information on their website. Takes a bit of getting used to but well worth the effort IMO! There are actually quite a few brands of cup; mooncup is just the best well known.

Smodlet

Do I wish those had been invented when I needed them. They seem too good to be true. I think I would have had to use a pad the first few times before I trusted it. It really is mind blowing to me.

phryne

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

How exactly is a child supposed to take responsibility here, get a job? Steal their pads maybe?

Well, they've got enough money for sweets.
And hair, and nails, and smartphones. (I've yet to meet a teen without a phone.. nor one who doesn't go to the sweet shop)

As has been discussed on this thread already. So it's a case of prioritising.

Comms69

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

Neither does providing wages in cash - but there we are. I think we have to start from the assumption that the vast majority of people/parents are responsible adults, and then deal with the ones who aren't. I don't want to live in a world where we assume that adults cannot manage their own affairs or provide for their children by default.

People tend to be more careful with money earned through hard work, then money given for simply existing.