Schools providing Sanitary protection

thorsoak

phryne wrote: »

Many ladies toilets have an automatic dispenser where you can get towels or tampons for a small amount of money. Might this be worth trying?

One pound is not a small amount of money for someone who has no money - and it has to be a one pound coin - so scraping up the pennies is very little help - and one pound will give you exactly three tampons. And of course, should the machine go wrong, you lose your money :-( Not an answer I'm afraid.

Red-Squirrel_2

Comms69 wrote: »

Ah my gender prevents me having an opinion, my apologies.

No, not your gender, your lack of ability to empathise.

Comms69

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

No, not your gender, your lack of ability to empathise.

So we should just fund everything that we empathise with?

I didn’t think it was radical, but actually expecting parent to, well, parent isn’t too much to ask surely.

My post wasn’t even necessarily critical of the idea; but critical of the attitude that shuts down debate. If you want to fund private enterprises to support everything you think is right, by all means. But you are asking me to fund it; which means I get to have an opinion.

You know what would really help cut down on drug related crime; free drugs.
Poverty, free food.
Homelessness, free housing.
Unemployment, we’ll lets just force employers to take people on; or just pay them not to work.

And whilst we’re at it; anyone who disagrees is a facist, monstrous, unempathetic etc etc....

I appreciate you’re in your echo chamber 90% of the time and aren’t used to hearing any other opinion, but funnily enough lots of people manage to look after themselves and their kids without demanding more and more. The ones who can’t maybe need to ask themselves why....

GlasweJen

Comms69 wrote: »

So we should just fund everything that we empathise with?

I didn’t think it was radical, but actually expecting parent to, well, parent isn’t too much to ask surely.

My post wasn’t even necessarily critical of the idea; but critical of the attitude that shuts down debate. If you want to fund private enterprises to support everything you think is right, by all means. But you are asking me to fund it; which means I get to have an opinion.

You know what would really help cut down on drug related crime; free drugs.
Poverty, free food.
Homelessness, free housing.
Unemployment, we’ll lets just force employers to take people on; or just pay them not to work.

And whilst we’re at it; anyone who disagrees is a facist, monstrous, unempathetic etc etc....

I appreciate you’re in your echo chamber 90% of the time and aren’t used to hearing any other opinion, but funnily enough lots of people manage to look after themselves and their kids without demanding more and more. The ones who can’t maybe need to ask themselves why....

Well schools could cut down by not supplying toilet roll. If girls are expected to cart about sanitary protection and magic money out of thin air if they don't bring any from home and get caught short then why not even the playing field and make everyone provide their own loo roll? It's just another bodily function after all.

Comms69

GlasweJen wrote: »

Well schools could cut down by not supplying toilet roll. If girls are expected to cart about sanitary protection and magic money out of thin air if they don't bring any from home and get caught short then why not even the playing field and make everyone provide their own loo roll? It's just another bodily function after all.

They could. Let’s see how popular that one is...

You say- ‘if girls are expected to cart around ( I’m sure that a single pad or tampon isn’t that cumbersome ) sanitary protection and magic ( they could, but again logically this is a parental responsibility, so make the parents pay ) out of thin air.’

Like I said, throwing money at a problem doesn’t solve it; just makes it somebody else’s problem. How about this, don’t provide for your child, lose your right to choose. You owe society a debt, you pay it back; by force if necessary.

GlasweJen

Comms69 wrote: »

They could. Let’s see how popular that one is...

You say- ‘if girls are expected to cart around ( I’m sure that a single pad or tampon isn’t that cumbersome ) sanitary protection and magic ( they could, but again logically this is a parental responsibility, so make the parents pay ) out of thin air.’

Like I said, throwing money at a problem doesn’t solve it; just makes it somebody else’s problem. How about this, don’t provide for your child, lose your right to choose. You owe society a debt, you pay it back; by force if necessary.

One tampon/towel was nowhere near enough for me at school. My school (allocated by the council, not a placing request) was a 45 minute drive away so I had to leave the house at 7:30 to get the school bus and was home around 5:15 depending on traffic. I had to change my sanpro every hour or risk flooding (I definitely sat in a few pools of blood waiting on inconsiderate teachers to allow me to leave the room when I came on or on really heavy days). So I'd change immediately when I arrived at school, in between every lesson if I could (all but one set of toilets was locked), before I got on the bus then I'd be running up the hill from the bus stop.

So I'd go to school with a full box of tampax super plus and a pack of always ultra night.

Spendless

thorsoak wrote: »

One pound is not a small amount of money for someone who has no money - and it has to be a one pound coin - so scraping up the pennies is very little help - and one pound will give you exactly three tampons. And of course, should the machine go wrong, you lose your money :-( Not an answer I'm afraid.

That fetches back a memory. They were in the toilets at school and they weren't that expensive. Ok, they were compared to paying for a packet, but the initial outlay wasn't much (early 80s)

Comms69

GlasweJen wrote: »

One tampon/towel was nowhere near enough for me at school. Ok, even a pack would fit into any school bag My school (allocated by the council, not a placing request) was a 45 minute drive away so I had to leave the house at 7:30 to get the school bus and was home around 5:15 depending on traffic. I had to change my sanpro every hour or risk flooding (I definitely sat in a few pools of blood waiting on inconsiderate teachers to allow me to leave the room when I came on or on really heavy days). So I'd change immediately when I arrived at school, in between every lesson if I could (all but one set of toilets was locked), before I got on the bus then I'd be running up the hill from the bus stop.

So I'd go to school with a full box of tampax super plus and a pack of always ultra night.

Right, I’m still not seeing why we shouldn’t charge parents for this?

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Comms69 wrote: »

Right, I’m still not seeing why we shouldn’t charge parents for this?

Because it costs more to collect the money for a single sanitary towel for, say 600 kids over a year in terms of an employee's time than it does to just hand them out - having somebody put a bunch in a box each week takes five minutes at minimum wage (and if they order milk and coffee, etc, from a supermarket, it's just a few seconds of someone in Finance clicking on another item on the order), but having somebody handle cash or monitor electronic payments in mostly cashless schools, add them to the accounts, reconcile them against purchases, etc, etc, involves somebody paid far more in Finance - the Bursar or Business Manager, for example - getting involved.

And when many parents can't manage to afford to keep the lunch account topped up due to UC screw ups or too much month at the end of their money, they're hardly likely to be able to come up with the extra for towels as well.

Comms69

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

Because it costs more to collect the money for a single sanitary towel for, say 600 kids over a year in terms of an employee's time than it does to just hand them out - having somebody put a bunch in a box each week takes five minutes at minimum wage (and if they order milk and coffee, etc, from a supermarket, it's just a few seconds of someone in Finance clicking on another item on the order), but having somebody handle cash or monitor electronic payments in mostly cashless schools, add them to the accounts, reconcile them against purchases, etc, etc, involves somebody paid far more in Finance - the Bursar or Business Manager, for example - getting involved.

And when many parents can't manage to afford to keep the lunch account topped up due to UC screw ups or too much month at the end of their money, they're hardly likely to be able to come up with the extra for towels as well.

That’s unfortunate isn’t it. Off you pop down to court.