Will there really be a crash?

POPPYOSCAR

Sapphire wrote: »

How vile and disrespectful, and typical of the attitude to the elderly today. It just illustrates to me why the poor, helpless, frail people in care homes today are the forgotten ones in our society. I hope you experience what they are experiencing today.

'The young' of this country will be doing no such thing, given the amount of cheap foreign labour (some of it obviously untrained and barely able to speak English) that is used in care homes. I have seen this personally when it comes to two family members, and so have friends with their family members, in care homes paid for by the kin.

I have no respect for 'the young' of today. They are selfish, spoilt and brainwashed, living in luxury compared with most of their parents and certainly their grandparents, yet constantly moaning. Conversely, I have a lot of respect for my elders, who worked incredibly hard uncomplainingly all their lives (some five decades), and didn't earn high salaries or have the sorts of expectations that people have today (including 'must-have stuff' bought on credit, aka incurring debt).

I agree with you but feel it unfair to make a blanket statement about the young.

Not all of them are like that, just some.

Sapphire

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

I agree with you but feel it unfair to make a blanket statement about the young.

Not all of them are like that, just some.

OK. Point taken, but it does seem like that sometimes, perhaps because the ones I describe make the most noise. :cool:

POPPYOSCAR

Sapphire wrote: »

OK. Point taken, but it does seem like that sometimes, perhaps because the ones I describe make the most noise. :cool:

Yes I know what you mean.

I also think that some of the young live in a fantasy world where they think they will be young forever and the old are just another species!

StevieJ

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Yes I know what you mean.

I also think that some of the young live in a fantasy world where they think they will be young forever and the old are just another species!

Twas ever thus.

mayonnaise

Sapphire wrote: »

I have no respect for 'the young' of today. They are selfish, spoilt and brainwashed

Wow. Quite an insight into the mind of a bitter disgruntled brexiteer.

spadoosh

PasturesNew wrote: »

The last "crash" didn't really happen, noticeably....

You need somewhere to live, you've found it.... waiting will most likely just be a needless waste of your time.

Get moving in .... and live.

triathlon wrote: »

Exactly

Mock me as much as you want people, but just do not give this young lady advice that is going to ruin her life just because so many of you failed in life.

Really?

My neighbour two doors down in our ex council houses (so exactly the same house, although my garden is bigger) might disagree. I bought my house in 2011 for £104,000. They bought in Oct 2007 for £148,000. Zoopla puts the house values now at £120,000 and £143,000 respectively. They put it on the market a few years ago because theyve got 4 kids ina 3 bed house. On for £140,000 couldnt sell it. Theyve decided the only thing the can really do is loft and side extension but seeing that theres a ceiling price i suspect theyll end up losing more money but needs must i suppose.

Compare that with their neighbours who rented their house (pretty cheaply i might add) for 30 years and then bought with right to buy for less than £60k. And im seeing winners and losers that probably arent directly applicable to the typical winner/loser scenario.

Ie one was lucky, the other was unlucky.

My education was in finance, i predicted the 07/08 crash with a crazy degree of accuracy as part of my economics coursework. It was ungraded as i didnt understand the basic principles of economics apparently (yeh im still a bit bitter about that comment). Ive always been a bit of a saver, my deposit included money from my paper round from when i was 13. But obviously an education in finance has also helped. I held off buying for a while due to the crash and pretty much bought at the dip where as the neighbour bought at the peak.

You call yourself a winner and thats all well and good whilst using your own metric. The one i use though, is based on how you view and treat others, on that basis i think youre a massive loser.

Sapphire

mayonnaise wrote: »

Wow. Quite an insight into the mind of a bitter disgruntled brexiteer.

Wow. I am not in the least bit disgruntled! :j:beer::T

Some people really need to change the record. It's become very boring reading the same old tripe, day in day out. Have a slice of :bdaycake: and chill.

lookstraightahead

I can't think of anything worse than having dinner with s bunch of people all showing off about their investments. It reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketches. I remember someone saying it needs to not matter how much you've got as there will always be someone with more than you, so if you don't have the right frame of mind you will never be satisfied. If indeed you are financially affluent but you feel the need to compare, it only goes to prove how much you lack in etiquette. Comparison is vulgar and unimportant, havjngbhhe maturity, sense and values to appreciate that makes you truly wealthy.

lisyloo

lookstraightahead wrote: »

I can't think of anything worse than having dinner with s bunch of people all showing off about their investments. It reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketches. I remember someone saying it needs to not matter how much you've got as there will always be someone with more than you, so if you don't have the right frame of mind you will never be satisfied. If indeed you are financially affluent but you feel the need to compare, it only goes to prove how much you lack in etiquette. Comparison is vulgar and unimportant, havjngbhhe maturity, sense and values to appreciate that makes you truly wealthy.

I agree, but at the same time planning sensibly for the future and rainy days is eminently sensible.

Truffle_Snuffler

triathlon wrote: »

The jealousy from some of the posters just leaps out at you, and you are not close to the worst. Everything is always someone else's fault, your job losses and failed marriages etc, all someone else's fault. All these millions of people now being conned by Corbyn who think they will all have cushy easy lives where they can weigh in at 20 stone, smoke fags and blame the elite like us for their laziness and we will just hand it over.

Best bit I can give nearly 99% of those wishing a property crash and want a certain answer to their problem, look for the nearest mirror, look in it, there is your problem. My kids will never sleep in a hostel or go without the essentials, they will never see their Dad crying and weeping how unfair the world is, they will always see a winner and become one themselves. This country has never been better than now for aspiration and actually getting on in life, look at the history books if you want to see real struggling.

Anyway diner tonight with even more winners, roughly £12 million in property between them, they will be winners today and winners when you lot are still waiting for Corbyn to sort your lives out, wake you people, it has never been easier.

Are you Donald Trump?? Or do you just wish you were?