Vc5 and speeding fine not my vehicle

Mercdriver

GothicStirling wrote: »

Ring the DVLA and tell them its not your car, and neither you or your brother was driving it. They will almost certainly refer it to Special Cases to investigate. They will ask you to send a letter explaining what you've told us here. It sounds like someone has registered a car to your brother, and got the address mixed up (this is easily enough done using the Electoral Register). Someone tried this with me in 2016, the DVLA cleared it up pretty quickly. Make sure you send the letter tracked, things like this tend to get 'lost' by the DVLA.

Secondly, breathe. It's not a speeding fine, its a letter asking whether the named person was the driver. Return it saying no.

Where was the ticket taken? Can he prove that he was somewhere else at that time (i.e. work)?

How does sending a letter tracked help prevent the DVLA losing it? It will be delivered in bulk mail, there is never any point in sending tracked, signed for or SD. The OP should get proof of posting FOC from the post office.

Or are you suggesting he put a tracking device inside the envelope?

GothicStirling

Mercdriver wrote: »

How does sending a letter tracked help prevent the DVLA losing it? It will be delivered in bulk mail, there is never any point in sending tracked, signed for or SD. The OP should get proof of posting FOC from the post office.

Or are you suggesting he put a tracking device inside the envelope?

I sent it recorded delivery and it was fine, unlike people who sent it by normal post and got lost (i.e. binned).

GothicStirling

cjdavies wrote: »

I wouldn't waste time phoning, just return the V5C with letter - your brother not you.

No, he needs to phone them to activate a Special Cases Investigation (in other words Fraud). If you send a letter, by the time they look at it (if at all), the OP and his brother could be in some deep !!!! with the police. He may as well cross his fingers and hope it will all just magically disappear. Why would you take the risk for a 5 minute phone call, just because you'd rather bury your head in the sand?

Mercdriver

GothicStirling wrote: »

I sent it recorded delivery and it was fine, unlike people who sent it by normal post and got lost (i.e. binned).

Bollards.

A signed for only gets it into the same bag as all the other mail. Remember the saying "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence."

Mail for DVLA is delivered in bulk. There is no signed for process for each individual item of post, it simply isn't delivered in that way. It all comes up in sacks. Items may get lost once they are delivered, but you cannot trace an item once it has been delivered. Except if you have attached a tracking device as my tongue in cheek comment alluded to.

Otherwise, if someone sends me something by signed for, tracked, or Special Delivery, and I subsequently lose it myself, why would the sender have any comeback against RM? Tracking only works until the system says it is delivered. Being sent by signed for doesn't change the point or method of delivery to comapanies or agencies that have only bulk deliveries so sending it signed for is a waste of money.

Marvel1

GothicStirling wrote: »

I sent it recorded delivery and it was fine, unlike people who sent it by normal post and got lost (i.e. binned).

I had the same issue as OP, sent back normal post and received a letter to confirm removed from record.

Bartown22

I left an online crime thing with the police yesterday, not thinking anything would come of it, but at least I'd done something, I've had a phone call this morning, to ask me a few questions and to say the car has been insured by someone else, they are looking into it and will call me back with what to do next, I have to say I'm impressed

waamo

Not sure how contacting the DVLA will help much. It won't deal with the issue of a live NIP/section 172 issue.

You need to fill the form out and attach a covering letter explaining your side of the story. Failure to at tell the safety partnership something that may assist them will see 6 points.

Once you've got into some sort of dialogue around possible cloned plates then you can get onto the DVLA, however at this point a simple misread by ANPR can't be ruled out.

parking_question_chap

Mercdriver wrote: »

Bollards.

A signed for only gets it into the same bag as all the other mail. Remember the saying "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence."

Mail for DVLA is delivered in bulk. There is no signed for process for each individual item of post, it simply isn't delivered in that way. It all comes up in sacks. Items may get lost once they are delivered, but you cannot trace an item once it has been delivered. Except if you have attached a tracking device as my tongue in cheek comment alluded to.

Otherwise, if someone sends me something by signed for, tracked, or Special Delivery, and I subsequently lose it myself, why would the sender have any comeback against RM? Tracking only works until the system says it is delivered. Being sent by signed for doesn't change the point or method of delivery to comapanies or agencies that have only bulk deliveries so sending it signed for is a waste of money.

The point is OPs brother could reliably state he sent the letter and provide a copy with the tracking number, should he need to in the future if this matter goes any further.

Just sending it regular first class and he will have no such evidence.

Its not just about ensuring the DVLA get it, its about being able to produce evidence that it was sent.

@OP, I would suggest your brother sends the same letter by email as well, build up some records in case you ever need them in the future.

wgl2014

parking_question_chap wrote: »

The point is OPs brother could reliably state he sent the letter and provide a copy with the tracking number, should he need to in the future if this matter goes any further.

Just sending it regular first class and he will have no such evidence.

Its not just about ensuring the DVLA get it, its about being able to produce evidence that it was sent.

@OP, I would suggest your brother sends the same letter by email as well, build up some records in case you ever need them in the future.

Send 1st class and get free proof of posting, obviously needs to be done by handing the letter over at the post office but just as good as tracked delivery for the reasons that have already been stated.

neilmcl

waamo wrote: »

Not sure how contacting the DVLA will help much. It won't deal with the issue of a live NIP/section 172 issue.

You need to fill the form out and attach a covering letter explaining your side of the story. Failure to at tell the safety partnership something that may assist them will see 6 points.

Once you've got into some sort of dialogue around possible cloned plates then you can get onto the DVLA, however at this point a simple misread by ANPR can't be ruled out.

But it will deal with the prospect of the OP (or his brother) receiving any more tickets over the coming weeks if they remove him as registered keeper.