Speaking polish to polish customers

Casey1709

JReacher1 wrote: »

I would imagine that they did.

Thankfully I have never been in a war but I would assume being able to understand what the bloke in the plane next to you was saying is pretty key

Getting shot down as you didn’t understand the polish for “watch out there is a Jerry behind you” is probably a bit annoying!

Your imagination only shows your prejudice.

most of the Polish pilots did not know a single word of English. Communication between British and Polish officers had to be carried out in French.

Probably like the English in charge back then you are easily led

the British, like the French before them, accepted as truth the German propaganda about Polish ineptitude in resisting the German-Soviet invasion and were doubtful about the flying skills of the Polish pilots

However they outperformed home grown pilots.

In the Battle of Britain, Polish pilots serving in all RAF squadrons achieved a remarkable score of 203.5 destroyed, 35 probables and 36 damaged.

We owe them a huge debt.

JReacher1

Casey1709 wrote: »

Your imagination only shows your prejudice.

most of the Polish pilots did not know a single word of English. Communication between British and Polish officers had to be carried out in French.

Probably like the English in charge back then you are easily led

the British, like the French before them, accepted as truth the German propaganda about Polish ineptitude in resisting the German-Soviet invasion and were doubtful about the flying skills of the Polish pilots

However they outperformed home grown pilots.

In the Battle of Britain, Polish pilots serving in all RAF squadrons achieved a remarkable score of 203.5 destroyed, 35 probables and 36 damaged.

We owe them a huge debt.

Nice bit of selective quoting. The full quote is....

“Language lessons became a top priority as most of the Polish pilots did not know a single word of English”

I also see you are trying to advance an agenda that I am predjudice against Polish people. That is fundamentally untrue I am well aware of the role of Polish pilots in WW2.

That is however completely irrelevant to this scenario as the service of these pilots 70 years ago has no relevance on the owner of a business asking her staff to speak English in front of customers.

Casey1709

Nice Segway.

I don’t need to advance anything, your posts show your prejudice.

JReacher1

Casey1709 wrote: »

Nice Segway.

I don’t need to advance anything, your posts show your prejudice.

LOL,

This is what is wrong with society these days. You defend a business owner for taking the perfectly legal action of requesting that their staff only speak English in front of customers and you get the snowflake generation accusing you of being prejudiced, racist or Xenophobic!

Casey1709

JReacher1 wrote: »

LOL,

This is what is wrong with society these days. You defend a business owner for taking the perfectly legal action of requesting that their staff only speak English in front of customers and you get the snowflake generation accusing you of being prejudiced, racist or Xenophobic!

Nice segway again.

Projecting your own prejudices and assumptions as other people’s sensitivities. The OP doesn’t make mention of banning Hebrew or Arabic. I suspect you’d be more circumspect with your posts if they did. I’ll leave you mix with your own kind as that’s all you can cope with.

JReacher1

Casey1709 wrote: »

Nice segway again.

Projecting your own prejudices and assumptions as other people’s sensitivities. The OP doesn’t make mention of banning Hebrew or Arabic. I suspect you’d be more circumspect with your posts if they did. I’ll leave you mix with your own kind as that’s all you can cope with.

I honestly do not know what you are trying to imply here! It seems to be that I do not mind them banning Polish but I would mind them banning Hebrew or Arabic?

It seems a very strange argument to advance! However as I have said if it is legal to request people speak English only to customers (which it is) then there is no difference over what language is banned.

I suspect you are deliberately trolling so as you say let us leave it be!:cool:

Comms69

How is this still going???


It's literally this simple:


Owner: Here is a reasonable instruction
Employee: I don't like it
Owner: well you know where the door is....


It doesn't matter if the owner is racist or not, whether you feel offended or not, whether you agree or not!


Racists are still allowed to earn a living
If you don't like it, take your business elsewhere
Your feelings don't matter

Comms69

firely2327 wrote: »

Discrimination against those who can't. Then again, if they can't speak it can they read it? If not then the sign will mean nothing.


You cannot demand that a person availing of a service speaks English as that is deliberate exclusion.

And? Discrimination isn't illegal.... (unless it's in very specific circumstances)


Again just to be clear, if the shop owner doesn't want to serve certain people that's up to them - I don't agree with their choice, but it's their business.


And whilst a shop owner would struggle to dictate what language a customer spoke, they are certainly entitled to instruct their employee.

Samsung_Note2

unforeseen wrote: »

That's part of the problem. There are people who have moved here 30/40 years ago who can still not speak English. I'm not talking fluent here but just enough to get by, sort of tourist English.

It's not confined to people coming here. There was a program on a few years ago about ex-pats in Benidorm. A lady had been there 14 years and still couldn't speak a word of Spanish.

I think one of the root causes is that they set up a ghetto type area which is a little bit of home from home. If they never/rarely leave it then they don't learn the language of their host country.

No excuse not to learn the host country language...well ok maybe Japanese or similar..lol
Even then your there 24/7 and if dealing with locals anyone should be able to pick up the basics,i know when we went to Hong Kong i was amazed how much my wife could understand and speak.

The lady at our local Take away loves it when we say thank you in Chinese...probably for the comedy value,but she does appreciate the fact at least you've tried.

Undervalued

scd3scd4 wrote: »

Don't really see that many of these posts answer the question.


This is a work situation, where your boss has given instruction on how he wants the business/department to communicate and run. If he losses business then that's he's look out.


Like I said, it was actively discouraged where I worked. And not allowed if we had visitors. Now what you did outside work or in the canteen was up to the individual.

Exactly!

Pretty much the same as my own experience as described some pages back.

Whatever decision the employer makes will please some and upset others. However the fact remains that she is quite entitled to require her staff to comply with her decision.