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Parking charge notice

Hi,
My son, using my wife's car went to his rented accommodation in Norwich to collect all his belongings, he was parked outside a majestic store on the pavement which has parking spaces? We then receive a parking charge notice which we ignored as its not enforceable. After the final notice, which we also ignored we received a letter from ccs collect, debt collectors for £115, so we are after some advice in what to do? None the letters were recorded delivery and ccs letter had a 2nd class stamp. Any help/advice will be appreciated? Many thanks in advance.
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,758 Forumite
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    We then receive a parking charge notice which we ignored as its not enforceable.
    Where did you get that advice from? That's not our understanding and we've been doing this for years.
    None the letters were recorded delivery and ccs letter had a 2nd class stamp.
    Meaning what exactly?
    After the final notice, which we also ignored we received a letter from ccs collect, debt collectors for £115, so we are after some advice in what to do?
    You can safely ignore letters from debt collectors, but hope the parking company does not issue court proceedings - they have 6 years in which to do so. Please read the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #4 which covers debt collector letters.

    Which parking company?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    We then receive a parking charge notice which we ignored as its not enforceable.
    Who told you that, Facebook friends? A bloke down the pub who said you can ignore?

    WRONG.

    But now you will have to, and hope they are not a litigious firm, who sue people.
    After the final notice, which we also ignored we received a letter from ccs collect, debt collectors for £115,
    Yes and this is fully covered in the NEWBIES thread 4th post - which IS a time to ignore.

    Please read post #1 and post #4 of the NEWBIES thread. NO LINK, not needed.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Morning, thanks for your replies? the letter from the debt collectors was on behalf of the parking company called Flash Park. As for where i got my info to ignore the letters? my wife works at our local council and asked the person who deals with parking enforcement. He said "as these are parking charge notice they are not really legally binding and not enforceable unlike a council or police issued parking ticket?" My wife has contacted the debt collectors, CCS Collect, and said we had not received any letters from Flash Park and they have advised us to contact them? We have sent a letter, recorded delivery and as yet waiting for a reply. Will read the newbie posts? Thanks again.
  • waamo
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    Flashpark is actually a trading name of Vehicle Control Solutions. Not to be confused with the very similar named Vehicle Control Services.

    It's a nosey neighbour type outfit in that they don't employ wardens rather a local busybody with too much time in their hands jumps out from behind their twitching curtain and slaps a ticket on.

    Odds of court are extremely low http://www.parkingappeals.info/companydata/Vehicle_Control_Solutions.html
  • the letter my wife sent to Flash Park says my son was driving so probably dug a deeper hole for ourselves?? Doh
  • beamerguy
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    Fireball68 wrote: »
    Morning, thanks for your replies? the letter from the debt collectors was on behalf of the parking company called Flash Park. As for where i got my info to ignore the letters? my wife works at our local council and asked the person who deals with parking enforcement. He said "as these are parking charge notice they are not really legally binding and not enforceable unlike a council or police issued parking ticket?" My wife has contacted the debt collectors, CCS Collect, and said we had not received any letters from Flash Park and they have advised us to contact them? We have sent a letter, recorded delivery and as yet waiting for a reply. Will read the newbie posts? Thanks again.

    Debt collectors YOU IGNORE COMPLETELY as they have
    no power
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/74763610#Comment_74763610

    Your friend at the council is WRONG. this forum is full
    of parking companies taking people to court.
    Whilst they are all ROGUE TRADERS, ir's what they do

    You should resend your letter by normal 1st class post and
    get a postal receipt. The law says it is deemed to be
    delivered within 2-3 days

    They can refuse to sign a recorded delivery letter and
    you cannot prove they received it

    As said above, this is probably a self ticket operation so
    you have a NORRIS (Coronation Street nosey bod)
    you need to route out.

    As the nosey neighbour is only working for commission,
    they are passing on data which they are not entitled
    to do
  • Fireball68
    Fireball68 Posts: 27 Forumite
    edited 12 September 2018 at 10:54AM
    12th Sep 18, 9:09 AM

    Morning, thanks for your replies? the letter from the debt collectors was on behalf of the parking company called Flash Park. As for where i got my info to ignore the letters? my wife works at our local council and asked the person who deals with parking enforcement. He said "as these are parking charge notice they are not really legally binding and not enforceable unlike a council or police issued parking ticket?" My wife has contacted the debt collectors, CCS Collect, and said we had not received any letters from Flash Park and they have advised us to contact them? We have sent a letter, recorded delivery and as yet waiting for a reply. Will read the newbie posts? Thanks again.
    Originally posted by Fireball68
    ”Debt collectors YOU IGNORE COMPLETELY as they have
    no power

    Your friend at the council is WRONG. this forum is full
    of parking companies taking people to court.
    Whilst they are all ROGUE TRADERS, ir's what they do

    You should resend your letter by normal 1st class post and
    get a postal receipt. The law says it is deemed to be
    delivered within 2-3 days

    They can refuse to sign a recorded delivery letter and
    you cannot prove they received it

    As said above, this is probably a self ticket operation so
    you have a NORRIS (Coronation Street nosey bod)
    you need to route out.

    As the nosey neighbour is only working for commission,
    they are passing on data which they are not entitled
    to do

    Many thanks to you all, certainly learning and most definitely learn how to use this forum properly so apologies for not using it correctly or following the proper line. As i said wife has made contact wityh ccs collect and we shall ignore if any further letters received, wife has sent a letter recorded delivery stating my son was driving but no names mentioned, wish i had read the Newbie posts first regarding letter and not taking responsibility? but we have a receipt for the letter. I shall report further as this progresses, many thanks to all for your help and will pass info to others about this forum? Thanks
  • You should resend your letter by normal 1st class post and
    get a postal receipt. The law says it is deemed to be
    delivered within 2-3 days

    Quick up date, letter was not sent recorded delivery as i thought but special delivery, wife has checked and it has been delivered?
  • beamerguy
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    edited 12 September 2018 at 11:25AM
    Fireball68 wrote: »
    You should resend your letter by normal 1st class post and
    get a postal receipt. The law says it is deemed to be
    delivered within 2-3 days

    Quick up date, letter was not sent recorded delivery as i thought but special delivery, wife has checked and it has been delivered?

    ok, as long as they have it.

    You have not named your son or where he lives ?

    They will try to get this information from you, but you are
    under no obligation to provide it

    Just wait for their reply (if any) and come back here

    PS: If you want to reply here so we see as per your quote above,
    you press QUOTE

    And you reply under ..... [/QUOTE]
  • beamerguy wrote: »
    ok, as long as they have it.

    You have not named your son or where he lives ?

    They will try to get this information from you, but you are
    under no obligation to provide it

    Just wait for their reply (if any) and come back here

    PS: If you want to reply here so we see as per your quote above,
    you press QUOTE

    And you reply under .....
    [/QUOTE]
    Hi, have not named him or where he lives and as of today, Thursday 13th have not heard anything. One silly question as the ticket was not stuck to the windscreen and it was sent to us by post, how did they get hold of our address?
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