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My landlord is refusing to replace a 22 year old washing machine

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  • arciere
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    What if OP buys a new washing machine and then landlord complains that his (broken) washing machine is no longer there? He would probably do that, unless he expects you to buy it and leave it there.
  • Slithery
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    edited 4 September 2018 at 3:57PM
    In which case the OP would be liable for the cost of a replacement 22-year old broken washing machine and I can't see that breaking the bank. Although storing the current machine and refitting it would be the best plan of action if the LL chooses not to fix/replace.
  • Unfortunately as the OP has already explained, she can't just move.

    And even more unfortunately, there's not a lot the OP can do to force the LL to replace the washing machine if its not listed in the TA (it isn't the TA seems to refer to pipes etc). Its always a good idea to check who does what with white goods and get this written into the TA. When I moved into my one private rented property, the LL made it clear the Fridge freezer was there but not his responsibility. I was glad of it as didn't (at the time) have one of my own. Washing machine and tumble dryer I did have as I prefer to have one that works well and economically but they are provided in a lot of rentals (but aren't normally a model I'd be happy using). But if they aren't mentioned in the TA, legally, the LL doesn't have to repair them. You could google the problem with it and see if there is a cheap way to repair it (with an old model there may be, filter may just be blocked).

    It makes sense for the LL to replace it, as it is so old, but sense and LL's don't always go in the same sentence. I'm afraid the OP may have four choices, use a launderette, buy a washing machine, move or repair the one that's there.

    My one private LL was pretty foul at times. I stopped letting him in the property unless I knew there would be a civilised discussion and put the phone down on him when he started ripping off. We communicated more by email, then there is a paper trail.

    We have checked filter etc, its soo old that it actually doesn't have a filter protecting the pump.
    When the landlord came round I didn't let her in but she put her foot in the way of the door so I couldn't shut it without hurting her, which I obviously didn't want to do. She won't respond to any emails and refuses to talk about anything in writing, we have sent emails documenting the whole process and every interaction with her we have had but she never responds.
    I was told water installations included the washing machine but can see from everyone's posts it doesn't look like that is the case.
    I have contacted citizens advice and they didn't say much about her coming over but we did discover that my deposit isn't in a deposit scheme I don't know if that changes anything except to add more stress to me.

    Thank you everyone for your responses they have been useful! I think finding a way to move out might be the only way forward.
  • elsien
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    arciere wrote: »
    What if OP buys a new washing machine and then landlord complains that his (broken) washing machine is no longer there? He would probably do that, unless he expects you to buy it and leave it there.

    My guess would be that's exactly what they'd expect.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • oliviaka wrote: »
    When the landlord came round I didn't let her in but she put her foot in the way of the door so I couldn't shut it without hurting her, which I obviously didn't want to do

    If someone forces their way into your home and refuses to leave again, ring the police.
  • If the deposit isn't protected you can take her to court for 3x deposit once you move out. She would have to pay a minimum of 1x deposit. Its gives you more power, not just stress.

    Just don't even open the door to her anymore. If you can't see, and aren't expecting a visitor, ask who it is and say you are going out if its her. Its how I handled my LL.
  • Providing appliances is such a headache for LLs and many of them no longer bother.
  • Comms69
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    If someone forces their way into your home and refuses to leave again, ring the police.

    And you can use reasonable force to remove them yourself if you want to.
  • Bass_9
    Bass_9 Posts: 151 Forumite
    If someone forces their way into your home and refuses to leave again, ring the police.

    I would change the lock for good measure too.
  • If the deposit isn't protected you can take her to court for 3x deposit once you move out. She would have to pay a minimum of 1x deposit. Its gives you more power, not just stress.

    Just don't even open the door to her anymore. If you can't see, and aren't expecting a visitor, ask who it is and say you are going out if its her. Its how I handled my LL.

    Well thats good, so if I replace the washing machine and take it/ sell it when I leave she wont be able to take any money off the deposit?
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