Bought a car with DPF removed - now stuck getting MoT

macman

Why not MOT it and see what happens? As mentioned above, the DPF is just a can with baffles in it. It's cut open along the top, gutted, and welded shut again. The car's ECU is then remapped to fool the system into thinking that the DPF is still there. Without removing it from the exhaust, there is no way to tell it has been taken out, and the MOT inspection is visual only
At least, that's how it was explained to me. I've not done it myself m'lud. Obviously.

sevenhills

The RAC website says "it is illegal. Owners face fines if caught (up to £1,000 for cars and £2,500 for vans) and removing a DPF can also invalidate your car insurance policy."


You could possibly have a word with the place you bought it.


https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/diesel-particulate-filters/

Arklight

steve_blake1490667 wrote: »

I can't speak for Hyundai but my local Audi dealer gave me £6k for my 13 year old diesel banger on top of their regular/normal discounts when i bought a brand new A4 (factory order) from them a few months ago. So taking the Audi Diesel Scrappage discount into account, i got almost 30% off a car which had a list price of £39k....sheer madness by Audi to give such large discounts. Yet Drive The Deal quoted me £34k for the exact same car - they didn't offer the scrappage scheme. DTD laughed at me when i told them Audi have offered me the same car for £28.5k by trading in my 2005 banger...it was me who was laughing at the end :rotfl:

Here's the proof in case you were wondering:

I know it probably seems like the Scrappage Fairy shone forth her gold on you in your expensive luxury car purchase, but please consider for one moment that there is no funding for Audi, or any other manufacturer, for the inconvenience of taking someone's diesel banger off them.

The last scrappage scheme in the UK was back when Labour were in power and they offered £2k for every manufacturer taking an old car off the streets. The idea was that this would then be passed onto customers, but in general the cost of new cars just went up by £2k for the duration of the scheme.

Audi aren't a charity and if they gave you £9k off the list price plus the pain of having to scrap your banger, it's because £9k was already built on top of their existing (very healthy) margin.

Although that said, introducing a putative "scrappage" discount could be a tactic for boosting sales on overpriced cars at bigger discounts than usual, while pretending you really aren't.

This would supposedly keep the brand value and not upset the brand loyalists who thought the £5k they got had already given them an amazing bargain. If they didn't think too hard about what had happened.

I still don't think anyone is going to buy the OP's car for what he wants.

Ectophile

Arklight wrote: »

The last scrappage scheme in the UK was back when Labour were in power and they offered £2k for every manufacturer taking an old car off the streets. The idea was that this would then be passed onto customers, but in general the cost of new cars just went up by £2k for the duration of the scheme.

I'm still driving the car I bought under the scrappage scheme in 2009. I traded in a knackered old Land Rover that was in danger of falling to bits. In return, I got £2000 off the standard list price.


The list price hadn't just gone up by £2000, and it didn't go back down by £2000 when the scheme ended.


However, that £2000 was the only discount I did get. There was no prospect of any other discounts on offer.

facade

Ectophile wrote: »

I traded in a knackered old Land Rover that was in danger of falling to bits. In return, I got £2000 off the standard list price.

Which would now be worth more than £2000 (and I bet you won't get much more for the car you bought in 2009), take a look at what people expect to get for a bit of chassis and a logbook, never mind a complete running Landrover.



You could probably have got something close to that off the list price anyway.


Your Landrover is probably standing on that airfield you see on the News and Youtube videos, gradually being stripped for parts.



Classic car fans are still bitter over what went for "scrap" because the owners would rather have a "discount" than the hassle of selling.
The car had to have a valid MOT to go to the scrap scheme in the first place.

loskie

would a 2006 Mazda have a DPF?

Hermione_Granger

loskie wrote: »

would a 2006 Mazda have a DPF?

Yes. That's why the seller on the link given by AdrianC is showing them for sale.

AdrianC

facade wrote: »

Which would now be worth more than £2000 (and I bet you won't get much more for the car you bought in 2009), take a look at what people expect to get for a bit of chassis and a logbook, never mind a complete running Landrover.

You're assuming it was a Series or a Defender.

In 2009, it could easily have been a dozen-year-old K-series Freelander, let alone a 20yo hangingly rotten Disco.

The car had to have a valid MOT to go to the scrap scheme in the first place.

Many of those tests were utterly hooky, in the full knowledge there was a couple of grand of taxpayers' money hanging on the back, and that the car would never see the road.

motorguy

Arklight wrote: »

I know it probably seems like the Scrappage Fairy shone forth her gold on you in your expensive luxury car purchase, but please consider for one moment that there is no funding for Audi, or any other manufacturer, for the inconvenience of taking someone's diesel banger off them.

The last scrappage scheme in the UK was back when Labour were in power and they offered £2k for every manufacturer taking an old car off the streets. The idea was that this would then be passed onto customers, but in general the cost of new cars just went up by £2k for the duration of the scheme.

Audi aren't a charity and if they gave you £9k off the list price plus the pain of having to scrap your banger, it's because £9k was already built on top of their existing (very healthy) margin.

Although that said, introducing a putative "scrappage" discount could be a tactic for boosting sales on overpriced cars at bigger discounts than usual, while pretending you really aren't.

This would supposedly keep the brand value and not upset the brand loyalists who thought the £5k they got had already given them an amazing bargain. If they didn't think too hard about what had happened.

I still don't think anyone is going to buy the OP's car for what he wants.

Irrespective of where the money comes from, there have been scrappage scheme incentives being run by manufacturers that give significant discounts over and above those normally available, if you trade in a qualifying car.

A friend of mine got a brand new MINI 1499GT for £12,000 by availing of the scrappage scheme BMW MINI were running at the time. This was £3,000 extra off, funded by BMW because his car qualified - he traded in an old Galaxy that was worth £150 to weigh in and got £3,000 for it.

Where the money comes from is fairly irrespective for the end customer.

motorguy

AdrianC wrote: »

DPFs have been around for nearly two decades. They work just fine - when used properly.

I disagree. I bought a year old ex-lease Passat 1.6TDI with 16,000 miles on it. More than enough, you would assume, to ensure it had been able to regen its DPF periodically. 2 weeks in to my ownership and the DPF light started coming on, 2 months in and VW had to replace the entire emissions module which would have cost around £2,300.

Thats frankly unacceptable as far as i'm concerned - shouldnt be happening.