Got a new job during process for disciplinary/gross misconduct

Laura1995

billy2shots wrote: »

Hi sangie,

Whilst I would never say your understanding of English is impaired, I would say you missed the actual question.

If the OP is dismissed then she can't hop in a time machine and go back to a point where she can negotiate leaving the job. She has already been sacked (hypothetically in her question).

Q If im sacked for gross misconduct when should I tell my new employer?

A Straight away

If I am found guilty should I tell my new employer the next time I see them (as I do not have a phone number and the email address is a noreply)? Should I tell them the short version of the events or a more detailed version? Obviously I'd also tell them that since the incident I've been incredibly careful and learnt from my mistake.

I forgot to mention in the OP that they never asked for references they just know where I currently work, and the only reason they know that is because we were joking about another company (the new job's rival)

billy2shots

Laura1995 wrote: »

If I am found guilty should I tell my new employer the next time I see them (as I do not have a phone number and the email address is a noreply)? Should I tell them the short version of the events or a more detailed version? Obviously I'd also tell them that since the incident I've been incredibly careful and learnt from my mistake.

I forgot to mention in the OP that they never asked for references they just know where I currently work, and the only reason they know that is because we were joking about another company (the new job's rival)

Telling them when you next see them or it might be better to pop in if it's that kind of workplace. Ask if it's convenient to talk or arrange a time that is.

Personally I would write it all down because it's natural to get nervous/excited when trying to explain something like this and forget certain details. Don't get sidetracked and stick to the key points otherwise it becomes confusing. Facts are key, hearsay has no place.
Explaining that you have learned from the incident is important so you are correct to point that out.

sangie595

LilElvis wrote: »

What Sangie suggested was to offer an immediate resignation in return for ceasing the disciplinary process and giving a neutral reference. No need for a time machine as there won't be a sacking as the OP will have resigned. Possibly no longer an option as the OP subsequently states that they have already submitted their notice, though the employer may still be amenable to a negotiated exit.

Quite. And also resignation (with notice) and immediate resignation (what I said) are not the same thing. My English is still working fine. Unlike some people's who seem intent on misquoting what I have said.

billy2shots

sangie595 wrote: »

Quite. And also resignation (with notice) and immediate resignation (what I said) are not the same thing. My English is still working fine. Unlike some people's who seem intent on misquoting what I have said.

Today you have told me that I 'demonstrate that I can't comprehend the English language ' and since then you have made a couple more barbed comments about my language including the one above.

English is not my first language and I apologise for my grammar and spelling but I do not expect to be ridiculed for not having English as my native tongue. This is 2018 for goodness sake.

sangie595

billy2shots wrote: »

Today you have told me that I 'demonstrate that I can't comprehend the English language ' and since then you have made a couple more barbed comments about my language including the one above.

English is not my first language and I apologise for my grammar and spelling but I do not expect to be ridiculed for not having English as my native tongue. This is 2018 for goodness sake.

I did not quote you. I did not refer to you in any way. I was speaking to another person entirely. Now who is "stalking" who? I have no interest in what your first language is or anything else about you. You clearly simply wish to give people the benefit of your not very extensive knowledge of the law and mislead people into believing things that are not true. If that is your aim, have at it. Sometimes I think that this site deserves what it gets.

nicechap

It certainly is 2018 and as far as I’m aware our courts still rely on the correct definitions, spelling and grammar in applying the law. Maybe that’s what someone is misunderstanding why it’s so important in any advice proffered.

marliepanda

Get called out for inaccurate advice and inability to respond to others without misquoting: claim English is your second language.

Hurray get out of jail free card.

billy2shots

marliepanda wrote: »

Get called out for inaccurate advice and inability to respond to others without misquoting: claim English is your second language.

Hurray get out of jail free card.

Where is the inaccurate advice?

You are jumping on the bandwagon I think.

Yet another thread derailed....