Got a new job during process for disciplinary/gross misconduct

Laura1995

I’ve been searching for a new job for a while and yesterday I got confirmation of a new job. However, I got into an accident at my current place of work - I accidentally dropped something from a couple of metres up and a member of staff was walking underneath the area at the time and it hit them - and so I’m going through a hearing to see if I breached health and safety. My current workplace do not like me and have been looking for reasons to dismiss me and making me really unhappy and trying to make me leave, so since there is lack of evidence to show that I am not guilty of throwing the object other than my own word - the victim has said that they saw me throw it despite that their back was to me, and the other person present wasn't watching. But my question is, if I get dismissed for gross misconduct when do I tell my new job, the interview was before I received any information about the hearing so I didn’t say anything. Obviously I feel awful for what happened, everytime I’m near the area where it happened I get anxiety attacks, and I’ve been extremely cautious since then about everything in the workplace so there’s no question whether I’ve learned from it

billy2shots

You should be honest and upfront with your new employer. Let them know that you are currently involved in a disciplinary process.

You haven't lied up till now because as you say, nothing was happening when you were interviewed so continue with your honest approach.

sangie595

Before telling the new employer anything, I would suggest you speak to your current employer and ask them if they would accept your immediate resignation in writing for a neutral reference. If the disciplinary "goes away" then there's nothing to tell. And if their aim is to get rid of you then they may go for it became a resignation removes the risks attached to a dismissal. The only problem then would be if they have already written the reference to the new employer, in which case you would need to tell them the situation.

Laura1995

I handed in my resignation yesterday when I got confirmation of my new job, but I got the email of the hearing just before that so I’m worried it looks suspiscious and like I’m trying to get out of it especially if I say that to my boss

billy2shots

sangie595 wrote: »

Before telling the new employer anything, I would suggest you speak to your current employer and ask them if they would accept your immediate resignation in writing for a neutral reference. If the disciplinary "goes away" then there's nothing to tell. And if their aim is to get rid of you then they may go for it became a resignation removes the risks attached to a dismissal. The only problem then would be if they have already written the reference to the new employer, in which case you would need to tell them the situation.

The OP was asking when to tell the new employer if she gets dismissed by the existing employer.

The simple answer is straight away. If you are honest then there will be no shock references. If you don't divulge it and the new employer subsequently finds out, your honesty will be questioned.

Best of luck.

nicechap

Laura1995 wrote: »

I’ve been searching for a new job for a while and yesterday I got confirmation of a new job. However, I got into an accident at my current place of work - I accidentally dropped something from a couple of metres up and a member of staff was walking underneath the area at the time and it hit them - and so I’m going through a hearing to see if I breached health and safety. My current workplace do not like me and have been looking for reasons to dismiss me and making me really unhappy and trying to make me leave, so since there is lack of evidence to show that I am not guilty of throwing the object other than my own word - the victim has said that they saw me throw it despite that their back was to me, and the other person present wasn't watching. But my question is, if I get dismissed for gross misconduct when do I tell my new job, the interview was before I received any information about the hearing so I didn’t say anything. Obviously I feel awful for what happened, everytime I’m near the area where it happened I get anxiety attacks, and I’ve been extremely cautious since then about everything in the workplace so there’s no question whether I’ve learned from it

A dropped object would fall in a vertical line, a thrown object will have some form of arc, unless thrown vertically down.


2 people are saying they saw you throw it, you claim one had their back to you - in which case it was an arc the object travelled, and the other wasn't looking. So your word against 2 others. And this happened after you finding a new job away from somewhere that was making you unhappy, where people didn't like you and have been trying to make you leave.


I hope your prospective new employers find out the truth about you before you start.

ACG

I agree with Sangie.
If you have a job offer subject to references, I would speak to them about leaving. I would just be perfectly honest and just say its clear you are not liked and that if it is easier for everyone concerned you will hand in your notice for a clean reference.

Laura1995

nicechap wrote: »

A dropped object would fall in a vertical line, a thrown object will have some form of arc, unless thrown vertically down.


2 people are saying they saw you throw it, you claim one had their back to you - in which case it was an arc the object travelled, and the other wasn't looking. So your word against 2 others. And this happened after you finding a new job away from somewhere that was making you unhappy, where people didn't like you and have been trying to make you leave.


I hope your prospective new employers find out the truth about you before you start.

The person who had their back to me didn’t see anything, and that’s what they’ve said to the team investigating the incident, they said they heard me shout for the victim to move out of the way and that was that. The victim is currently in a relationship with a member of the management team who has never liked me - she thought I was after her then girlfriend, despite that I am heterosexual - so I can only imagine what gossip she’s privy to. I go to work to work, not to cause drama or accidents. The reason they dislike me is a long story of he said she said that I was blamed for because I was friends with them, I’ve told them that even though I spoke to them, I did not participate or condone what they say about other staff members when I was friends with them.

My post is the truth of what happened, no questions asked

Laura1995

billy2shots wrote: »

The OP was asking when to tell the new employer if she gets dismissed by the existing employer.

The simple answer is straight away. If you are honest then there will be no shock references. If you don't divulge it and the new employer subsequently finds out, your honesty will be questioned.

Best of luck.

ACG wrote: »

I agree with Sangie.
If you have a job offer subject to references, I would speak to them about leaving. I would just be perfectly honest and just say its clear you are not liked and that if it is easier for everyone concerned you will hand in your notice for a clean reference.

I already handed my notice in once I got confirmation of the date, which was a few hours after I saw the email for the hearing. I wouldn’t necessarily want to say that since it’s clear I’m not liked to them just judging how they act about it usually.

nicechap

billy2shots wrote: »

What is it with people on this forum and their annoyance of new members? Surely everyone was new at some point. Is it some kind of hazing that all new members should be made fun of?

The OP is asking for some advice, not to be made fun of. Try living up to your form username 'nicechap'

Once again, not offering advice, let alone constructive advice to the OP but instead stalking posters. What a sad life you have.

JReacher1

nicechap wrote: »

Once again, not offering advice, let alone constructive advice to the OP but instead stalking posters. What a sad life you have.

But aren't you now stalking this poster?

It seems very confusing the amount of stalking that appears to be going on today. I'm losing track of who is stalking who!