Break in, unresponsive landlord

jbarnes12

PasturesNew wrote: »

This is your cost to pay (one or some or all of the tenants), because it's as a result of something one of you did that caused the event to occur and required the locks to be changed.

You do still have the old locks - which you can keep, or change back when you leave.

But the fact is that the event occurred because of something somebody in the household did - and therefore it's a tenant cost, not a landlord cost.

If no windows were open and they'd been broken to gain entry, that'd be a landlord cost.

Assuming they got in through one of the unlocked windows, again there is no evidence for this, I know other than the landlord there are cleaners and builders that have keys.

jbarnes12

AdrianC wrote: »

A putative burglar got in through an unlocked window... and you think this is the landlord's fault? Should he be following you round, locking every window behind you?

By secure the property I mean pay for the new locks, not make sure my window is locked behind me.

AdrianC

jbarnes12 wrote: »

By secure the property I mean pay for the new locks, not make sure my window is locked behind me.

How is the need for replacement locks his fault?

Doozergirl

jbarnes12 wrote: »

By secure the property I mean pay for the new locks, not make sure my window is locked behind me.

We know what you mean.

And it's still unanimous. It's your problem, not your landlord's.

Your keys weren't safe so it's your responsibility to pay for the new locks and keys to keep your stuff secure.

jbarnes12

AdrianC wrote: »

How is the need for replacement locks his fault?

Im not saying its his fault, I'm saying without being able to say for definite who is to blame the burden of making the property secured for his tenants falls on him or at the very least everyone involved, but this cannot even be discussed as there has effectively no response for three weeks..

AdrianC

jbarnes12 wrote: »

Im not saying its his fault

If it isn't his fault, why should he pay?

...the burden of making the property secured for his tenants falls on him...

It is secure. Or, rather, it was secure until a key was stolen. So who's responsible for it not now being secure...?

antrobus

jbarnes12 wrote: »

Im not saying its his fault, I'm saying without being able to say for definite who is to blame the burden of making the property secured for his tenants falls on him or at the very least everyone involved, but this cannot even be discussed as there has effectively no response for three weeks..

The landlord discharged his burden when he provided you with a secure home with locking doors.

You left the window open and somebody sneaked in and stole your key. You sensibly changed the locks. You can supply your landlord with some keys, or you can change the locks back again when you leave.

I don't think there is anything to 'discuss'. Your landlord ain't gonna pay. Why should they? They are not your insurer. If you truly believe that this burden falls on your landlord, issue a LBA and take 'em to the small claims court.

tom9980

jbarnes12 wrote: »

Im not saying its his fault, I'm saying without being able to say for definite who is to blame the burden of making the property secured for his tenants falls on him or at the very least everyone involved, but this cannot even be discussed as there has effectively no response for three weeks..

I think given the key was missing from your room that they entered and left through that room, its a fair assumption. Its your cost to cover.

I reported your abusive post.

jbarnes12

AdrianC wrote: »

If it isn't his fault, why should he pay?



It is secure. Or, rather, it was secure until a key was stolen. So who's responsible for it not now being secure...?

Surely the absolute minimum expectation of a landlord is to provide a property that is both habitable and secure, if there is no one that can be blamed for the property being unsecured this expectation should still be met?
Tbh my original post wasn't really about whether I should pay or not as this needs discussed with him and effectively i will need to live with his decision but more about the fact that he has been not only been completely uncontactable to discuss what happened and how to proceed but has also ignored all my attempts to discuss the situation like an adult.

CakeCrusader

If you left your car window open and someone nicked your radio, would you ask the car maker to replace the radio? Nope!! His insurance won't cover this as the windows were left open.