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  • isg
    isg Posts: 9 Forumite
    "still pictures were invented decades before moving pictures"

    still pictures can easily be taken from moving pictures as all moving pictures are made up from still pictures the pictures they have supplied are not just ANPR the ticket I bought can be seen on the dashboard thro the windscrean !
  • Redx
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    they could have had a CEO onsite using a handheld camera to take still pictures

    you seem to be fixated on CCTV, but in the 6 years I have been coming here, NO private parking case has involved CCTV and it was outlawed for council cases a few years ago

    there are tens of thousands of cases where ANPR and handheld cameras have been used

    but if you want to have tunnel vision about CCTV cameras and ignore what we are telling you then go ahead, but dont expect people to help you when all you wish to do is argue

    tell it to a judge
  • KeithP
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    edited 23 August 2018 at 10:03PM
    isg wrote: »
    the ticket I bought can be seen on the dashboard thro the windscrean !

    Yes, that sounds about right.

    Because of the numerous possibilities of number plate positioning on a vehicle (which itself can be of varying sizes), the camera takes a picture of the whole of the front, or rear, of the vehicle when it spots a number plate.

    It is the software behind the scenes that then 'enhances' the number plate.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,765 Forumite
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    Why come for advice from people who have been doing this shiite for years, then choose to argue with them, from a seemingly very narrow knowledge base?

    I'm done.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Redx
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    they are not licensed to use CCTV and they would also have to have signs up stating that CCTV recording is in use, plus that type of data gathering would have to be agreed with the ICO for data purposes

    if the still pictures are of a dashboard with ticket on it then its a handheld camera held by a parking person employed by the company or possibly somebody on site reporting it to the parking company (local jobsworth) - more likely to be an HX employee going round with a handheld camera

    if its an entrance and exit pair of still pictures, its ANPR still cameras in use and sending the pictures back to their HQ

    all this talk about CCTV is not getting this any further forward, plus the fact that you can obtain still pictures from video footage is also irrelevant because they are not using and wont have any CCTV footage, none at all

    all this arguing with those trying to help you is just putting everybody off and when you shoot the messenger, you are on your own
  • isg
    isg Posts: 9 Forumite
    trust me these are CCTV there was no body around when I parkrd or when I left ! yet my headlights can be clearly seen to be on they selected that still from CCTV
    Pity you see this as argument I mistakenly thought this was somewhere I could find help and advise .
  • Redx
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    trust me , its not , repeat NOT cctv
  • Umkomaas
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    I mistakenly thought this was somewhere I could find help and advise .
    You can get advice, but you need to understand just how busy this forum is - 55 cases (and climbing) being dealt with today, by a handful of regulars, a number being away on holiday - so expert advice is very thinly spread, and we have to prioritise our involvement to those who work with us as quickly as we work with them to get things done.

    Getting involved in a nugatory stalemate is poor use of our time.

    Get your proof of CCTV involvement, then come back.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Redx
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    edited 23 August 2018 at 10:19PM
    as I said earlier, send them an SAR requesting the following evidence

    all documents
    all anpr images
    all cctv footage
    any other data they hold on you

    and before you go on about CCTV again , take a look at what their own website says

    https://www.hx-pcn.com/

    HX Car Park Management Ltd are the UK’s one-stop parking management company based in West Yorkshire. We specialise in fair use ANPR

    PARKING ENFORCEMENT WITH ANPR

    Incorporating HD image quality, high speed ANPR recognition, zoom capability and long range pulsed IR lighting into one efficient unit. Our state of the art ANPR systems sets new standards for intelligent ANPR. They are an efficient and effective way of managing your commercial or retail car parks.
    We require no internet connection, which means no expensive ground work and no expensive on-site equipment, just a quick and tidy installation. The cameras we use are designed to meet the needs of a wide range of applications including traffic management, Police, security, parking and tolling in addition to further Intelligent Transport System (ITS) requirements.
    We provide ANPR services for a wide range of companies across the UK and have years of experience in the management of car parks, both for private and large commercial and retail use. Please contact us today to discuss your specific requirements.




    24/7 Enforcement
    Our ANPR systems identify vehicles that enter and exit a car park, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. In all weather conditions. Meaning ANPR is very reliable and efficient.


    o On-Site Staff Required
    ANPR needs no members of on site staff to manage it, this cuts out unneeded confrontation for wardens and your staff. ANPR Parking Charges are issued via the postal service.


    Wireless 3G/4G Technology
    Our intelligent ANPR systems utilise wireless 3g/4g signal to submit data, removing the need for groundwork and on-site servers. All data is transmitted to our office systems in live time.


    Statistics and Reporting
    We monitor your car parks in real-time, and help you to better understand your customers behavior with in-depth analysis by supplying you with bespoke reports.
    so like I said numerous times , they use ANPR cameras - period

    they even state they are licenced for ANPR with the ICO themselves too

    they also mention the following services

    SELF TICKETING

    WARDEN PATROLS

    CCTV is never mentioned on their website or their advertised services
  • isg
    isg Posts: 9 Forumite
    Statistics and Reporting
    We monitor your car parks in real-time, and help you to better understand your customers behavior with in-depth analysis by supplying you with bespoke reports.

    I REST MY CASE !!!
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