Neighbour says I hit their car

Stoke

If you didn't hit it, you didn't hit it.

Case closed. The only problem is it'll sour neighbourly relations, but hey, that's life.

asw122

Stoke wrote: »

If you didn't hit it, you didn't hit it.

Case closed. The only problem is it'll sour neighbourly relations, but hey, that's life.

TBH, there's not much to sour. The extent of our relationship is that I've said hello to her maybe four times in all the years she's lived here (we know most of our neighbours to some extent, but she's the one who's never really made any effort or seemed interested in interacting).

Mercdriver

asw122 wrote: »

I thought that if you were recording outside your own property, you were supposed to black it out or something (or am I thinking of some old, outdated thing?). I definitely recall the police telling my mother something to that effect when someone was systematically vandalizing her car, though that was like 15 years ago.

Nope, nobody owns the rights to their own image being used in a non commercial way. So you can take a photograph or video of anyone in a public space and there is no legal comeback provided you aren't doing so for commercial reasons, so CCTV can record anything and everything from anywhere and everywhere within its scope..

Norman_Castle

I've told her that I'm not paying out personally and to go through insurance, but I'm worried that I'll end up liable for her car,

If its nothing to do with you simply explain, its nothing to do with you. Let her choose whatever course she wants. Insurers will expect her to explain why she blames you and support her claim with evidence. Don't waste further time discussing it with her.

Mercdriver

If the photos you have taken are the original phones taken with your phone, then the EXIF information should be there. I have photos on my iPhoneX that were taken on an iPhone 4 and it displays everything. If you had location enabled, it will even give you location. Try uploading to Flickr. It will show you all the EXIF information on the file. Then send the link to your insurers to back up your version of (non) events.

Stoke

asw122 wrote: »

TBH, there's not much to sour. The extent of our relationship is that I've said hello to her maybe four times in all the years she's lived here (we know most of our neighbours to some extent, but she's the one who's never really made any effort or seemed interested in interacting).

It's one of those things. I had some fairly ropey neighbourly relations in my previous house, for a number of reasons. You just get on with it. It's only really an issue if it turns violent or there is vandalism involved.

asw122

Mercdriver wrote: »

If the photos you have taken are the original phones taken with your phone, then the EXIF information should be there. I have photos on my iPhoneX that were taken on an iPhone 4 and it displays everything. If you had location enabled, it will even give you location. Try uploading to Flickr. It will show you all the EXIF information on the file. Then send the link to your insurers to back up your version of (non) events.

Yep, its all there, photo of the red damage says 2nd Oct 17, the other says Feb this year. Didn't think of flikr though, that might not be a bad idea. Don't think that location was turned on, but I'll check later.

Mercdriver

asw122 wrote: »

Yep, its all there, photo of the red damage says 2nd Oct 17, the other says Feb this year. Didn't think of flikr though, that might not be a bad idea. Don't think that location was turned on, but I'll check later.

The exif information will give you strong claims on the balance of probabilities, since date and time are auto propagated.

JimmyTheWig

asw122 wrote: »

I asked her when and she said "last Thursday or Friday afternoon".
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She also apparently has people going through CCTV (I don't know what CCTV as there's no public camera in the area and as far as I'm aware, you're not allowed to use CCTV to records incidents on other people's land or public land like roads and paths) to "narrow down when it happened".

I take this to mean that she's been somewhere with CCTV (her work, perhaps?) on, say, Friday morning. She's getting them to look at her car for the red paint. If it's there then the accident happened before then. If it's not then it happened after then. So she's doing it to "narrow down when it happened".

asw122

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

I take this to mean that she's been somewhere with CCTV (her work, perhaps?) on, say, Friday morning. She's getting them to look at her car for the red paint. If it's there then the accident happened before then. If it's not then it happened after then. So she's doing it to "narrow down when it happened".

You know, that makes a lot more sense. I've been trying to puzzle out what CCTV she meant for hours (as she said she had "people" going through CCTV) and that's the first thing which actually seemed reasonable.