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MET Parking Gatwick - Two Visits

Hello, just a bit of advice please.....I received a Parking Charge Notice from MET Parking Services who had sent photos of my car entering and leaving the McDonalds Car Park at Gatwick South for a period of 86 minutes. There were in fact two visits of less than 60 minutes, which accounts for the length of time being over 60 minutes, though the rules state that there should be no return with 60 minutes, triggering the ticket. . On both occasions purchases were made and tickets were validated. Can anyone advise which template I should use to appeal in these circumstances ? Thankyou.
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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    edited 21 August 2018 at 10:08PM
    Send the blue text appeal from the first post in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.

    Send it as the keeper.

    Send it unchanged - no additions or changes needed.

    That's all there is to it at this stage.

    Read the rest of that NEWBIES thread to better understand the game you are now caught up in.
  • Thankyou for your prompt reply KeithP, I take it you mean this reply....?

    Re PCN number:

    I appeal and dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability.

    There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn, nor was there an agreed contract. Your signage terms fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence of the parking charge, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis, which is fully distinguished.

    Should you fail to cancel this PCN, I require with your rejection letter, all images taken of this vehicle & the signs at the location that day. Do not withhold any images or data later relied on for POPLA/court.

    Firms of your ilk were unanimously condemned in 2018 as operating an 'outrageous scam' (Hansard 2.2.18). The BPA & IPC were heavily criticised too; hardly surprising for an industry where so-called AOS members admit to letting victims 'futilely go through the motions' of appeal and say on camera 'we make it up sometimes' (BBC Watchdog).

    I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner, as well as complaining in writing to my MP and ensuring that they are appraised of the debate where Parliament agreed unanimously: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists...should not have to put up with this''.

    Formal note:

    Service of any rejection letter/POPLA code and/or legal documents by email is expressly disallowed. All responses to me from this point on, must be made by post. Regardless of any MCOL online/email system, service of any court claim must only be made by first class post to the latest address provided by me.

    Yours faithfully,

  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Please list all the blue text appeals you found in that post and we'll try and work out which one to use between us.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,798 Forumite
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    There's only one initial appeal template there. Check if it's the one you've copied and pasted here! It could be the wrong one. Double check, take nothing for granted. Why.......?

    Return within x hours is a dodgy case for a PPC to progress. There could have been two separate drivers who were blissfully unaware of the other's visit. Unenforceable by the PPC in my opinion.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Well, I only found one blue text appeal in the first post and that's it ! Thanks :-)
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Phew! I was worried for a nano-second there. ;)
  • Thankyou Umkomaas Return within x hours is a dodgy case for a PPC to progress. There could have been two separate drivers who were blissfully unaware of the other's visit. Unenforceable by the PPC in my opinion. That's a good point ! And thanks again Keith P :-)
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    Please can we never have anyone post 'is it this blue writing appeal?' ever again...
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Update ! As keeper I have now received a rejection of appeal from MET. Does anyone know if there is a suitable Template for an appeal to POPLA where two visits to McDonalds Gatwick - or elsewhere have been made please ? The two photos supplied on the original PCN show firstly, the car entering McDonalds Car Park on the first visit and secondly, leaving the car park after the second visit. Thanks.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    There are plenty of McDonald's Gatwick POPLA appeals on here.

    Put those bold words into the forum's search facility to find them.

    Here is just one very recent one:
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