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Refund on car

I bought a car from a national dealership. 3 and half years old

After 8 months the car became undrivable due to a transmission malfunction. New transmission is required at a cost of £5k

I immediately went back to the dealership and asked them to repair it. They refused. I wrote again asking for all the service docs. They send me these and it appears that there had been a transmission error a month before I purchased the vehicle.

I wrote back again explaining that under 2015 Consumer Act etc and that the 6 month issue didn’t matter because I could prove that the fault existed before I bought the car. Their own paperwork says so. Their paperwork also shows that the transmission service required on this vehicle was completed 4 month later than the technical guidance states which probably caused the problem in the first place. I was not informed of any of these issues upon purchase.

They are still refusing a refund. I am about to contact solicitors as the refund is more than 10k and I will need to go through Fast Track.

Does anyone have any thoughts or advice or questions??

Any help gratefully received
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  • Oakdene
    Oakdene Posts: 2,560 Forumite
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    I bought a car from a national dealership. 3 and half years old

    After 8 months the car became undrivable due to a transmission malfunction. New transmission is required at a cost of £5k

    I immediately went back to the dealership and asked them to repair it. They refused. I wrote again asking for all the service docs. They send me these and it appears that there had been a transmission error a month before I purchased the vehicle.

    I wrote back again explaining that under 2015 Consumer Act etc and that the 6 month issue didn’t matter because I could prove that the fault existed before I bought the car. Their own paperwork says so. Their paperwork also shows that the transmission service required on this vehicle was completed 4 month later than the technical guidance states which probably caused the problem in the first place. I was not informed of any of these issues upon purchase.

    They are still refusing a refund. I am about to contact solicitors as the refund is more than 10k and I will need to go through Fast Track.

    Does anyone have any thoughts or advice or questions??

    Any help gratefully received


    Think you may need stronger that probably caused.
    Dwy galon, un dyhead,
    Dwy dafod ond un iaith,
    Dwy raff yn cydio’n ddolen,
    Dau enaid ond un taith.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    Sounds like you have a reasonable case, however you're not necessarily entitled to a full refund as the you've had the car now for over 8 months therefore they are entitled to make an attempt at repairing the vehicle.
  • Thanks

    I accept that I will probably lose a bit on the refund. I have already asked them to repair and they have refused. My understanding is that I only have to make that offer once. In terms of proving that the fault existed before I purchased it, having their own paperwork stating that there was a transmission malfunction a month before purchase, then having a transmission malfunction now...

    Not sure what stronger evidence I could produce

    Thanks
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    You don't need a solicitor because you're not going to get a full refund. The most you'll be entitled to is the cost of the repair at the stage. They are only allowed a single attempt at repair and if it subsequently has a fault then you would be entitled to a refund however deductions can be made for the use you've had from the car.

    You best bet right now is to send an LBA demanding that they fully repair, or pay for the car to be repaired, to your satisfaction. Failing that you'll have no choice but to take out a Small Claims action.
  • mattyprice4004
    mattyprice4004 Posts: 7,492 Forumite
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    The good news is that if you paid on a credit card (even the deposit) or via finance, the finance company are liable under Section 75. Have a Google and read the legislation - you should be covered.
  • Thanks

    What is an LBA??

    Citizens advice told me that if they don’t repair after you offer once then you can claim for a full refund. Obviously in the 2 months that this has been going on I have had to source another car!!
  • Thanks but was paid for by direct debit
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    Thanks

    What is an LBA??

    Citizens advice told me that if they don’t repair after you offer once then you can claim for a full refund. Obviously in the 2 months that this has been going on I have had to source another car!!
    LBA = Letter Before Action. I think you maybe confusing the right of the seller to try a single attempt at repair, after which you can demand a refund (partial in your case).
  • Ok thanks

    Have sent 4 letters in total. The final one states that I will be taking court action

    What other evidence would be required?? Why would a nation wide dealership take it this far for a few grand? How about Ombudsman? Is that a route worth travelling down?
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    If you've already sent a final letter threatening court action then the "route" now is to carry out that threat. Having said that I'd still send a final LBA stating that you want the car repaired as is your right under the CRA 2015, rather than demanding a full refund, which of course you're not entitled to.

    Give them 14 days then go down the small claims route.
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