Boundary wall

Doozergirl

Sarja wrote: »

Just another thought, as the soffits at the top of the extention are actually directly on the boundary line is this actually a party wall, please nobody shoot me lol!

No. It's their wall and their bargeboard.

It can't ever be a party wall because it doesn't straddle the boundary. You can't build your extension off their wall because it's on their side of the boundary.

You'd have been on here complaining that they'd built 15cm into your land, except it would have been better for everyone in the future and there would be no need for a fence at all.

TheCyclingProgrammer

Sarja wrote: »

The patio laid is on our side of the boundary, with a 2 inch gap up to their extention, however the fence post would have to be dug out on our patio.

Then what this is ultimately going to come down to if you choose to dispute this is exactly where is the boundary line. It's very hard to prove where it is precisely to within a few inches. You claim that the posts will encroach on your side of the boundary, they may say that they don't and your patio has encroached onto their side.

The only thing that follows from this is an expensive boundary dispute.

TheCyclingProgrammer

Sarja wrote: »

The patio laid is on our side of the boundary, with a 2 inch gap up to their extention, however the fence post would have to be dug out on our patio.

Then what this is ultimately going to come down to if you choose to dispute this is exactly where is the boundary line. It's very hard to prove where it is precisely to within a few inches. You claim that the posts will encroach on your side of the boundary, they may say that they don't and your patio has encroached onto their side.

The only thing that follows from this is an expensive boundary dispute.

Also, if they've built on conventional projected footings, how would they erect fence posts that close to their extension without damaging the footings?

Ironically I have the reverse issue with out neighbours proposed extension. Our neighbours are building close to the boundary and I want our fence panels (the first three) replaced after work is complete but it might not be possible to do so as the corner of their building will potentially come right up to the centre line of the existing fence line (we have compromised and agreed to this to avoid a boundary dispute). So we won't know if it can go back up until the work is complete. If it doesn't, the new wall will effectively act as the new boundary and we will gain a sliver of land but I'd really prefer if the fence went back up!

TheCyclingProgrammer

Sarja wrote: »

Yes the patio is definitely within our boundary I checked the deeds late last night!

I'll be amazed if your deeds show you the precise boundary down to the nearest inch or even have any measurements that could be used to accurately determine this, unless somebody has in the past paid for the boundary to be measured and determined and recorded in the deeds.

Sarja

so it seems I don’t have a leg to stand on really, I’ll just see what happens in that case and hope they might do the neighbourly thing and not put up a fence, but if they do I’ll grin and bear it, not going to fall out with anyone as life is too short! But probably won’t be going on any more nights out with them just in case my mask slips after a couple of drinks lol!;)

pimento

Assume your neighbour will be paying for this fence they want?

Doozergirl

TheCyclingProgrammer wrote: »

Then what this is ultimately going to come down to if you choose to dispute this is exactly where is the boundary line. It's very hard to prove where it is precisely to within a few inches. You claim that the posts will encroach on your side of the boundary, they may say that they don't and your patio has encroached onto their side.

The only thing that follows from this is an expensive boundary dispute.

Also, if they've built on conventional projected footings, how would they erect fence posts that close to their extension without damaging the footings?

Ironically I have the reverse issue with out neighbours proposed extension. Our neighbours are building close to the boundary and I want our fence panels (the first three) replaced after work is complete but it might not be possible to do so as the corner of their building will potentially come right up to the centre line of the existing fence line (we have compromised and agreed to this to avoid a boundary dispute). So we won't know if it can go back up until the work is complete. If it doesn't, the new wall will effectively act as the new boundary and we will gain a sliver of land but I'd really prefer if the fence went back up!

Let them build over the boundary. No need for any more fences. The new fence comes off the back wall of their extension and you get a ready made wall to build off in future. Also somewhere nice to grow stuff as half the wall belongs to you so you can attach things to it.

I don't know how to explain this party wall thing so people understand that letting your neighbour build over the boundary with a party wall agreement is a great thing.

("Great thing". I sound like Trump!)

Both parties get a bigger extension, there's no need for fences that get replaced every so often because they rot and fall over.

If you did build off the wall, you pay half the cost of building it back to your neighbour and you only need to plaster it.

The roof is more secure eventually and there's no dodgy gaps to negotiate between buildings.

TheCyclingProgrammer

Doozergirl wrote: »

Let them build over the boundary. No need for any more fences. The new fence comes off the back wall of their extension and you get a ready made wall to build off in future. Also somewhere nice to grow stuff as half the wall belongs to you so you can attach things to it.

Really have no interest in this - we have no desire to build anything, our house is already extended anyway. Our boundary is angled away from us so they wouldn't be able to build off in a straight line without seriously encroaching on our space and they have no desire to build at an angle. It's all settled now anyway.

Sarja

Hi just a quick question, would I be ok to build a block wall instead of a fence? Then we could render it and Problem solved!

Aylesbury_Duck

Sarja wrote: »

Hi just a quick question, would I be ok to build a block wall instead of a fence? Then we could render it and Problem solved!

You can build what you like on your land, but I don't see how that solves your concern about your new patio? I doubt your neighbour will want to build a wall on their side because presumably it would be right up alongside their new extension.