Suspension from work after 2 complaints to company

molerat

the_chairman wrote: »

I don't make threats,I make promises.I am aware of the case Witham v Club24.I will be using that in the disciplinary.

I am afraid that is not a say what you like on Facebook get out of jail free card and as far as I can see has little relevance. The posts in that case were more general comments as opposed to your fairly specific threats and intimidation.

eamon

The dreaded work and FB again. I agree with the other posters.

gycraig_2

I!!!8217;d be fuming if one of my workers had posted that on Facebook rather than dealing with it like an adult or coming to me.

sangie595

the_chairman wrote: »

I don't make threats,I make promises.I am aware of the case Witham v Club24.I will be using that in the disciplinary.

Good luck with that one. Not only is there no relevance in that case as a defence for threats and intimidation against colleagues, but it is always good, when in a hole, to continue digging. That way the employer will realise that you are likely to be litigious, and sack you now whilst they have a solid case, instead of considering giving you a second second chance based on the grovelling apology you unwisely aren't making.

Les79

the_chairman wrote: »

I got into work today to be told that the company has received 2 complaints, and that they are suspending me on full pay whilst they are investigating the complaint.
I think it all stems from a post I put on facebook.Here is the post:-

So,a particular driver thinks my brother is talking all the time at Friar Lane does He?.Considering my brother cleans more buses than the other 2 cleaners,you are incorrect,and have failed to secure any brownie points.If you think you are clever being a grass, then read this......I am a bigger grass than you.You better be careful now, because I will be gunning after you.The slightest thing you do wrong, or fail to do, I will report you, and that includes failing to fill your defect card out correctly,or failing to record defects that I am aware of from previous days.BE WARNED,AND BE AFRAID.

I can only guess that the 2 complaints are from the other 2 cleaners.any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Ah man, that post is disgusting. That is on par with what a dangerous convict would think/say. An absolute disconnect with your own self-interest (remaining in your job) and empathy (recognising that people are different, have their own motivations, and are ultimately imperfect little vessels themselves).

I don't doubt that you/brother have some legitimate grievances, but in a civilised society it needs to be done in the correct way. And you need to look after yourselves first and foremost. Number 1, don't get into a position where others can "grass" on you (and even if they do, make it so that the EMPLOYER knows you work hard and so that they back you up against people who are probably jealous). Number 2, getting involved by inflicting the same !!!! on them is just pointless in the grand scheme of things. You are looking out for yourself and brother. Sod anyone else, and what they think. Clean your buses, be polite to everyone and pick up your paycheque. Sod everything else. Then maybe go and look at further education and the likes. Improve yourself, and aim for better.


Regarding the Whitham V Club 24 case, I found a link which summarises it (I think it is the same case):

http://www.redmans.co.uk/unfairly-dismissed-for-facebook-comments-whitham-v-club-24-ltd-ta-ventura/

According to that page, the comments made by Ms Whitham were pretty "mild" compared to yours! She allegedly put "I think I work in a nursery and I do not mean working with plant" which is pretty generalised in that who is the baby? But in your case, it is aimed at a specific employee and pretty heavy. I don't think you are on par with this case tbh, and you'd probably be better with a grovelling apology rather than quoting this case (you might be relying on their ignorance if you quote it).

marliepanda

Les79 wrote: »

Ah man, that post is disgusting. That is on par with what a dangerous convict would think/say. An absolute disconnect with your own self-interest (remaining in your job) and empathy (recognising that people are different, have their own motivations, and are ultimately imperfect little vessels themselves).

I don't doubt that you/brother have some legitimate grievances, but in a civilised society it needs to be done in the correct way. And you need to look after yourselves first and foremost. Number 1, don't get into a position where others can "grass" on you (and even if they do, make it so that the EMPLOYER knows you work hard and so that they back you up against people who are probably jealous). Number 2, getting involved by inflicting the same !!!! on them is just pointless in the grand scheme of things. You are looking out for yourself and brother. Sod anyone else, and what they think. Clean your buses, be polite to everyone and pick up your paycheque. Sod everything else. Then maybe go and look at further education and the likes. Improve yourself, and aim for better.


Regarding the Whitham V Club 24 case, I found a link which summarises it (I think it is the same case):

http://www.redmans.co.uk/unfairly-dismissed-for-facebook-comments-whitham-v-club-24-ltd-ta-ventura/

According to that page, the comments made by Ms Whitham were pretty "mild" compared to yours! She allegedly put "I think I work in a nursery and I do not mean working with plant" which is pretty generalised in that who is the baby? But in your case, it is aimed at a specific employee and pretty heavy. I don't think you are on par with this case tbh, and you'd probably be better with a grovelling apology rather than quoting this case (you might be relying on their ignorance if you quote it).

"I think I work in a nursery but I don't work with plants"
No you work with planks!
"true"

Compared to: I am gunning for you (specific person) Be warned and be afraid'

Yes, these things are exactly the same. You also do realise that the claimant was found to be partially at fault...

sangie595

I'm fairly sure Ms Whitham also didn't repost her comments on a very public website, including just enough details for anyone in the workplace to identify the individual and report their post to the employer - say, for example, the two people who have already been threatened???

But I would have to disagree that the comments are on a par with those of a dangerous criminal. A really dangerous criminal would more likely be polite, courteous and strike when you are least expecting it, and look pure as the driven snow after having nailed you. The kind of language here suggests a rather low level thug with a high recidivism rate as they are too daft to not get caught every time!

GreenTreen123

Has it been deleted of Facebook and all co workers ?

ffacoffipawb

keithdc wrote: »

He tried that on this website, but then he disclosed that he and his brother are linked to a bus company and Friar Lane, and that he lives in Long Eaton.

Friar Lane in Nottingham presumably?

ChrisK....._3

Your problem is that Threats and promises are not mutually exclusive! Just because it's a promise does not exclude it being a threat. E.g
"I promise to scratch your car if you do not vote for me on the board meeting"
See!

the_chairman wrote: »

I don't make threats,I make promises.I am aware of the case Witham v Club24.I will be using that in the disciplinary.