Lidl athena

saverclaire

Sorry I have read all the posts and still confused what to do. Ill try to keep brief.

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Never shopping in Lidl again - they know how to alienate customers.

Thank you so much for your help!

hap397

Edit your post so you do not reveal who is driving

Read newbies thread about getting this cancelled at source.

Guidance would to be email CEO to get this cancelled. There are plenty of threads already on the forum about this.

pogofish

If you read all the posts, then you will know exactly what to do -

Get stuck-in to the Newbies Sticky and once properly informed, complain to Lidl's CEO in the UK. His email is posted here regularly. If that fails, then the procedure to properly challenge this is fully laid-out.

saverclaire

Hi

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Thorsson

Stop!!! Remove all mention of who was driving from your posts.

Then read the newbies thread.

Understood?

saverclaire

thanks for your help

I have read them all - maybe fried brain from 2 kids that wont sleep & illness stopping me getting my head around it. Given me serious brain fog. Apologies.

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Thank you!

saverclaire

ok thanks!

Thorsson

That will not help your case.

And as hubby is the registered keeper he needs to send the response.

Just post the response here first so that people can check it's the right one. Put XXX rather than any actual details - plenty of posts on here to give the idea.

And EDIT your posts NOW! The scammers read these forums.

Oh and hubby should email the Lidl CEO.

saverclaire

ok thanks!

Barny1979

What was the time restriction?

saverclaire

Re PCN number:

I appeal and dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn, nor was there an agreed contract. Your signage terms fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence of the parking charge, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis, which is fully distinguished.

Should you fail to cancel this PCN, I require with your rejection letter, all images taken of this vehicle & the signs at the location that day. Do not withhold any images or data later relied on for POPLA/court.

Firms of your ilk were unanimously condemned in 2018 as operating an 'outrageous scam' (Hansard 2.2.18). The BPA & IPC were heavily criticised too; hardly surprising for an industry where so-called AOS members admit to letting victims 'futilely go through the motions' of appeal and say on camera 'we make it up sometimes' (BBC Watchdog).

I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner, as well as complaining in writing to my MP and ensuring that they are appraised of the debate where Parliament agreed unanimously: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists...should not have to put up with this''.

Formal note:

Service of any rejection letter/POPLA code and/or legal documents by email is expressly disallowed. All responses to me from this point on, must be made by post. Regardless of any MCOL online/email system, service of any court claim must only be made by first class post to the latest address provided by me.

Yours faithfully,


THE NAME AND POSTAL ADDRESS OF THE KEEPER (OR THE HIRER/LESSEE) GOES HERE. THE DRIVER IS NOT IDENTIFIED.

DO NOT PUT YOUR NAME HERE INSTEAD, IF YOU ARE NOT THE KEEPER/HIRER/LESSEE. YOU ARE NOT HELPING IF YOU DO THIS WRONG BY APPEALING IN THE WRONG NAME!

NO NEED TO USE YOUR REAL SIGNATURE - BUT DON'T POST IT BY ROYAL MAIL UNLESS YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTION ON THE PCN. CERTAINLY NOT BY RECORDED DELIVERY - FORGET THAT! - ALWAYS USE THE ONLINE APPEAL PAGE - OR EMAIL IF OFFERED AS AN OPTION ON THE NOTICE - BECAUSE THE APPEAL CANNOT GET LOST AND YOU CAN KEEP PROOF/ A SCREENSHOT

You can (carefully!) add a little to the template above, 'in order to resolve the dispute I attach copies of...':

- the driver's receipts/bank transactions (or Hospital Appointment/Hotel booking, etc.) that day as 'they' were a genuine customer/patient, etc.

- If an occupant of the car is disabled or elderly/infirm, then the keeper can add that, without implying who was driving. A copy of the Blue Badge (BB) is a good idea to upload/attach, but a person with a long-term debilitating condition (not a broken arm!) can be disabled without a BB, and will be legally entitled to a 'reasonable adjustment'. That can and should include an extension of time, over and above free or paid-for parking time.