Replacing asbestos soil stack

moonpenny

As above I need to replace soil stack and pipes from bath and sink. I don't know what sort of asbestos it is so will probably have to get it tested first.
I am planning on a bathroom refit (local guy not bathroom company) and I would like to sort this out before bathroom goes ahead.
Would an asbestos removal company replace as well as remove the pipes which would mean fitting to the old bathroom?
I only have the one toilet so obviously need this replacing at the same time.
I haven't seen one company that say they replace at the same time.
Can anyone advise on this please

Doozergirl

Why des it need to be replaced? Those things were made to last forever. Is it deteriorating?

moonpenny

It is an eyesore of peeling paint and moss growing around top of joints which looks as if it's cracked in a couple of places.
I would rather not have to replace but can't see any way around this as am not able to sand and repaint.
My house was built in the 50's and nothing lasts forever

Doozergirl

An asbestos removal company will only remove asbestos.

It's the type that can be removed without a license and so if you have a builder to organise the bathroom then they should be able to do the entire lot.

teneighty

Doozergirl wrote: »

Why des it need to be replaced? Those things were made to last forever. Is it deteriorating?

Asbestos cement drain pipes are very brittle and often crack on the collars. Also as OP points out they can be difficult to paint as sanding down is a big no no.

For removal it is not a licensed task so anyone can do it, the problem is most builders insurance specifically excludes any work on asbestos so most wont touch it. So you might end up getting a licensed asbestos removal contractor in just to get it done and a plumber/general builder to put in the new soil pipe and connect up the sanitaryware.

Removal is within the scope of a competent DIY'er, the HSE produce very good step by step guidance.

moonpenny

teneighty wrote: »

Asbestos cement drain pipes are very brittle and often crack on the collars. Also as OP points out they can be difficult to paint as sanding down is a big no no.

For removal it is not a licensed task so anyone can do it, the problem is most builders insurance specifically
excludes any work on asbestos so most wont touch it. So you might end up getting a licensed asbestos removal contractor in just to get it done and a plumber/general builder to put in the new soil pipe and connect up the sanitaryware.

Removal is within the scope of a competent DIY'er, the HSE produce very good step by step guidance.

My plumber/builder is willing to remove and replace but my local council / tip won't take the waste so I have to find where to dispose of it. Where would I get the strong bags to put it in?

Also, the soil stack is enclosed in a heavy concrete path so how would that part be removed? I presume there would be another join below the path to rejoin the new one!

ariba10

Our councils tip will take asbestos cement if it is double bagged.

I changed the asbestos cement roof of our garage and they took it no problem.

Mojisola

ariba10 wrote: »

Our councils tip will take asbestos cement if it is double bagged.

I changed the asbestos cement roof of our garage and they took it no problem.

Ours is the same - they have a skip just for double-bagged 'safe' asbestos.

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ariba10 wrote: »

Our councils tip will take asbestos cement if it is double bagged.

I changed the asbestos cement roof of our garage and they took it no problem.

My LA will collect asbestos free provided it's a small quantity (up to 50kg IIRC). I disposed of a sheet from under the old boiler, just wrapped and marked it as instructed, and they took it and left a certificate to say it was disposed of correctly.

teneighty

moonpenny wrote: »

My plumber/builder is willing to remove and replace but my local council / tip won't take the waste so I have to find where to dispose of it. Where would I get the strong bags to put it in?

If your local Council tip will not take asbestos cement you might be able to find a local commercial tip that allows DIY disposal, not something I have come across before. The lengths of pipe will probably be too long for bagging so you will have to double wrap in thick polythene and strong gaffa/duct tape.

If you get someone else to take it away they will need a special waste licence with paperwork to show it has been taken to a licensed tip. Unless you want to risk some dodgy rubbish clearance van that will probably just flytip it, you will probably end up going to a licensed asbestos removal contractor who will have the waste license.

Asbestos removal and disposal is highly regulated, even unlicensed work, so most reputable contractors will not handle it.

moonpenny

Thank you for all replies.
Regarding wrapping it, the longest length that goes into the path measures 9 ft up to the first join so it is going to be a real problem disposing of it.