Online scam - Fashion Centre #579890

I sent the email below to the Forum Team last night. So apologies for cross posting.

Hiya, I am a member of the MSE Forum but can't find the place for new messages or how to talk to someone about the problem I have got.

I received a parcel from a firm called Fashion Central, of Larnaca, Cyprus with just a delivery note inside stating that I had ordered it on the 16th May, 2018 and was shipped on 17th. It was cheap tat, a watch and a necklace with LOVE on it. I just thought it was a freebie from a catalogue I use. On the 25 June I received an identical package and still thought nothing worrying about it.

Last week when I checked my bank statements I was horrified to see that the following amounts had been withdrawn from my account:

17.5.2018 £6.99 Thesweetest 17.5.2018 £5.98 Weasygoing
31.5.2018 £84.00 Thesweetest 31.5.2018 £82.00 Weasygoing
25.6.2018 £84.00 Thesweetest 25.6.2018 £82.00 Weasygoing

I have contacted my bank, Lloyds Fraud Department and they immediately checked my statement and took my statement, cancelled my card and credited my account with the missing £344.94. They said that an investigation would be held and that they would get back to me.

I received their letter yesterday 9th July, 2018 which said that Fashion Central (Thesweetest/Weasygoing) had provided proof that I had placed the order and clicked the terms and conditions box. The long and the short of it is that the small amount was the delivery and admin for the parcel and because I did not contact them I had agreed to join their VIP Membership Club! I emailed Fashion Central yesterday and they have basically told me that they have proof and that I am still liable for the £344.94.

I am adamant that I did not order these goods nor ticked the terms and conditions. What do I do next? I phoned the bank today and spoke to an agent in their Fraud Department who said that the order had been placed on the 16th May at 9.07am (very precise) and they have said that because I cannot dispute the evidence then the matter is on the side of Fashion Central and I have to say bye bye to the money. It is a large amount of money I cannot afford to lose as an OAP.

I am so annoyed about this I have checked the browsing history on my PC and have found that on 16th May my husband read his emails at 8.56 am and I logged into Facebook at 9.48am. That's nearly an hour's gap inbetween. I have copied and printed it off as evidence.

In the letter from Weasygoing and Thesweetest (Fashion Central) they state that the order was made from IP address: 85.25.156.50.
I have managed to find my IP address (I have a printed out of all my computer details) and this is not my IP address. It relates to a Virginmedia account in Cosham, which is in the north of Portsmouth. I live in Southsea, Portsmouth.

I am sorry this email is so long. I am just so stressed about this and want to know if I can still do anything to recover my money.
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  • takman
    takman Posts: 3,876 Forumite
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    I sent the email below to the Forum Team last night. So apologies for cross posting.

    Hiya, I am a member of the MSE Forum but can't find the place for new messages or how to talk to someone about the problem I have got.

    I received a parcel from a firm called Fashion Central, of Larnaca, Cyprus with just a delivery note inside stating that I had ordered it on the 16th May, 2018 and was shipped on 17th. It was cheap tat, a watch and a necklace with LOVE on it. I just thought it was a freebie from a catalogue I use. On the 25 June I received an identical package and still thought nothing worrying about it.

    Last week when I checked my bank statements I was horrified to see that the following amounts had been withdrawn from my account:

    17.5.2018 £6.99 Thesweetest 17.5.2018 £5.98 Weasygoing
    31.5.2018 £84.00 Thesweetest 31.5.2018 £82.00 Weasygoing
    25.6.2018 £84.00 Thesweetest 25.6.2018 £82.00 Weasygoing

    I have contacted my bank, Lloyds Fraud Department and they immediately checked my statement and took my statement, cancelled my card and credited my account with the missing £344.94. They said that an investigation would be held and that they would get back to me.

    I received their letter yesterday 9th July, 2018 which said that Fashion Central (Thesweetest/Weasygoing) had provided proof that I had placed the order and clicked the terms and conditions box. The long and the short of it is that the small amount was the delivery and admin for the parcel and because I did not contact them I had agreed to join their VIP Membership Club! I emailed Fashion Central yesterday and they have basically told me that they have proof and that I am still liable for the £344.94.

    I am adamant that I did not order these goods nor ticked the terms and conditions. What do I do next? I phoned the bank today and spoke to an agent in their Fraud Department who said that the order had been placed on the 16th May at 9.07am (very precise) and they have said that because I cannot dispute the evidence then the matter is on the side of Fashion Central and I have to say bye bye to the money. It is a large amount of money I cannot afford to lose as an OAP.

    I am so annoyed about this I have checked the browsing history on my PC and have found that on 16th May my husband read his emails at 8.56 am and I logged into Facebook at 9.48am. That's nearly an hour's gap inbetween. I have copied and printed it off as evidence.

    In the letter from Weasygoing and Thesweetest (Fashion Central) they state that the order was made from IP address: 85.25.156.50.
    I have managed to find my IP address (I have a printed out of all my computer details) and this is not my IP address. It relates to a Virginmedia account in Cosham, which is in the north of Portsmouth. I live in Southsea, Portsmouth.

    I am sorry this email is so long. I am just so stressed about this and want to know if I can still do anything to recover my money.

    Your external IP address changes everytime your router looses connection so that doesn't prove anything unfortunelty.

    But they must have got your card details somehow and if they were in the public domain there would have been alot more transactions from fraudsters.

    Have you atleast cancelled the card used for the payments?
  • pearl123
    pearl123 Posts: 2,080 Forumite
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    I suggest you try the CAB for quick results. Plus ask the company if they have your email address, since most shopping using a email address.
  • Pollycat
    Pollycat Posts: 35,667 Forumite
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    How did they get hold of your credit card details?
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    edited 11 July 2018 at 11:39AM
    Is the company in any way linked to your catalogue?
  • Oakdene
    Oakdene Posts: 2,560 Forumite
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    Ts & Cs



    TERMS AND CONDITIONS
    By placing an order through this website, you agree to the terms and
    conditions set for the below. Please read through these terms carefully
    before placing your order and print a copy for future reference. Please also
    read our Privacy Policy regarding personal information provided by you,
    which is incorporated herein by reference.

    Email: support@fashioncentral-watches.com
    Toll Free Customer Service phone: 808-189-0049

    How It Works:
    Pricing within the United Kingdom:

    The product of choice will be sent on a trial basis for only a shipping cost of £6.99 or £5.95 (depending on which product is selected) plus applicable sales tax. If you like your item, do nothing! We will automatically bill you either £84.00 or £82.00 (depending on which product is selected) plus applicable sales tax on day 14 (No Additional Shipping & Handling). We will send you a new item from our selection and bill you either £84.00 or £82.00 (depending on which item is selected) starting thirty days from your original order date and every thirty days thereafter until cancellation is requested.


    Taken from this website https://www.fashioncentral-watches.com/
    Dwy galon, un dyhead,
    Dwy dafod ond un iaith,
    Dwy raff yn cydio’n ddolen,
    Dau enaid ond un taith.
  • DoaM
    DoaM Posts: 11,863 Forumite
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    I sent the email below to the Forum Team last night.

    Why did you do that? The forum team have enough to do running the forum and do not in any way provide personalised help to people sending random emails.
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    DoaM wrote: »
    Why did you do that? The forum team have enough to do running the forum and do not in any way provide personalised help to people sending random emails.

    I personally would love to see the abridged Money Moral Dilemma version of this...
  • Pollycat
    Pollycat Posts: 35,667 Forumite
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    DoaM wrote: »
    Why did you do that? The forum team have enough to do running the forum and do not in any way provide personalised help to people sending random emails.
    For the benefit of the OP:
    If you want to start a new thread, simply go to the board that you think is most appropriate to your question and you will see - towards the top of the page between the 2 green lines - a blue button on the left-hand side that says 'New thread'.
    Click on that and away you go.

    I might be using the old version of MSE but I'd guess the new version should be pretty similar.
  • Apologies for everyone who asked why I sent the email to the Forum Team last night. This was because I was desperate and stressed. I had already checked and searched for a thread ie "online scam" and got zero response. I spent hours last night searching and got no where. I searched again this morning and found Praise, Vent and Warnings thread. The rest is now history. It must be very easy for expert forum users to know how to do these things right, but to find the right thread is extremely difficult to find when you are stressed and just don't know where to turn. APOLOGIES TO EVERYONE FOR ALL THE INCONVENIENCE CAUSE. I don't know what else to say.
  • Quick look at the tacky website and it is a subscription service!!
    https://www.fashioncentral-watches.com/


    They provide people with the latest tacky fashions, watches, necklaces and other trinkets for an excessive amount of money. I doubt fraud has occurred in this instance, but rather OP has opted for a free set of beads in a piece of string and a cheap watch. Doing this for items that were probably worth the teaser gift, then you are flooded with even tackier items.


    Next time use rule of BoP.
    Short arms. Deep pockets!
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