IP Telephony to normal phone

bohica

We have a slightly unusual setup and need advice. We have a BT land line which is hardly every used and if it is it is mostly incoming calls. It costs a fortune given we never make outgoing calls (these are made on a mobile and included in package cost) and I want to get rid of it. Our broadband is via another supplier and we can't change it or add the landline to it for reasons too long winded to explain.


My wife won't let me just stop the landline for various reasons but the main one is it is a single number to reach either of us at home and we have 3 portable phones in different rooms but the most important one for her is the bedroom.



I've got IP telephony setup at home with a separate number using sipgate. My ideal situation would be to cancel BT, either a) use my new IP phone number or b) move my existing one to sipgate, and continue using my 3 wireless phones.


Is there a device which is IP telephony on one side and a normal phone connector on the other so I could plug my existing wireless phone base station into the IP telephony system? Would it also support caller ID (another item I'm paying BT for)?


Thank you

JJ_Egan

If you stop the landline how is the broadband going to reach you ??

bohica

JJ_Egan wrote: »

If you stop the landline how is the broadband going to reach you ??

I have separate fibre connection.

JJ_Egan

Are you paying landline rental charges on the fibre .
Who is supplying this fibre to the premises and could you not use them for your existing home phone instead of BT .

bohica

JJ_Egan wrote: »

Are you paying landline rental charges on the fibre .
Who is supplying this fibre to the premises and could you not use them for your existing home phone instead of BT .

Virgin supply my broadband and I cannot change the package to add the phone for reasons I'd prefer not to go into.

mnbvcxz

I think you just need a standard voip adaptor with an fxs port. Lots about, its a common idea. £20-£40.

Plug it into your internet router and then you just use the fxs port/socket as your new replacement master socket and carry on as before.

Sipgate or someone will charge you about a pound a month to host your telephone number

Downsides? It should be straightforward to port a number to a service but ability to port away can seem to be a gray area. Getting the voip settings right can be fiddly. If there is a power cut no emergency phone, though mobiles help with that these days.

Oh and you may be charged a line cease charge from BT. Or not.

Presumably as a phone only service you are getting a discount line rental from bt of £12 a month or thereabouts?

bohica

mnbvcxz wrote: »

I think you just need a standard voip adaptor with an fxs port. Lots about, its a common idea. £20-£40.

Plug it into your internet router and then you just use the fxs port/socket as your new replacement master socket and carry on as before.

Sipgate or someone will charge you about a pound a month to host your telephone number

Downsides? It should be straightforward to port a number to a service but ability to port away can seem to be a gray area. Getting the voip settings right can be fiddly. If there is a power cut no emergency phone, though mobiles help with that these days.

Oh and you may be charged a line cease charge from BT. Or not.

Presumably as a phone only service you are getting a discount line rental from bt of £12 a month or thereabouts?

Thanks for reply. Some interesting points in your reply.


Good, a device exists to do what I want - I'll look around.


I didn't know sipgate would charge. I have an account with sipgate (and a phone number different from my land line of course) already and can answer the calls at home on an IP phone or when away from home, on my mobile. I don't pay a penny for it at the moment, unless I call out on it. I found the settings on the sipgatesite and it was very easy to setup.



I'm not too bothered about losing my landline number but it would be easier to move it to sipgate. I don't care about power outages or even broadband outages more than the £34pm I'm currently paying BT (cost includes a cost for caller ID).



I'm not getting any discount from BT for phone only service because their letter said I could only have it if I didn't have broadband from them or anyone else - I have broadband from Virgin.

Inner_Zone

Get a Cisco SPA112, not the easiest to setup (set up to suit UK phone networks, plenty of guides on the net but one by a Welsh (user name) is excellent) but once setup very reliable and get a RJ12 to BT adapter with a ring capacitor. Plug in your phones base station in and away you go.

bohica

Inner_Zone wrote: »

Get a Cisco SPA112, not the easiest to setup (set up to suit UK phone networks, plenty of guides on the net but one by a Welsh (user name) is excellent) but once setup very reliable and get a RJ12 to BT adapter with a ring capacitor. Plug in your phones base station in and away you go.

Thanks. That is the what I'm looking for. RJ12? The SPA112 seems to have 2 RJ11 sockets according to the datasheet.

Inner_Zone

Correction RJ11, however RJ11 and RJ12 are the same size physically just more or less wired.


https://www.leadsdirect.co.uk/technical-library/pinouts-wiring-diagrams/what-is-the-difference-between-rj10-rj11-rj12-and-rj45-connectors/

JJ_Egan

I think that getting BB from someone else probably means over the BT wires .
Dont see how they should know anything about VM cable use .