May have got myself into a situation.

trigger_fish

TELLIT01 wrote: »

The OP has simply been given factual answers about the situation detailed in the first post. If that is being perfect that's great. Far better than talking a lot of gonads.

"Factual" The OP has done 'cash in hand' work yet the 'employer' has his/her NI number. Please explain that to me.


You don't even know which thread is being discussed.

marliepanda

trigger_fish wrote: »

We have a winner. Little MR/MS perfect. I wonder.

In terms of not committing fraud then yes I suppose I am little Ms Perfect. Wow, I’m so offended

trigger_fish

marliepanda wrote: »

In terms of not committing fraud then yes I suppose I am little Ms Perfect. Wow, I’m so offended

Many on here will have noses like Pinnochio if they carry on.

TELLIT01

trigger_fish wrote: »

"Factual" The OP has done 'cash in hand' work yet the 'employer' has his/her NI number. Please explain that to me.


You don't even know which thread is being discussed.

I said I had posted into this thread in error. That doesn't change the fact that doing work whilst on benefits and not reporting it is fraud.

trigger_fish

TELLIT01 wrote: »

I said I had posted into this thread in error. That doesn't change the fact that doing work whilst on benefits and not reporting it is fraud.

No one in this thread has questioned that.

However, the stiff moral spine has not thought of this-the OP stated that this was cash in hand work.

All of a sudden his/her NI number is on a payslip. Alarm bells are ringing. Perhaps the payslip is fake. Deductions have been taken but not necessarily forwarded to where they should be going. Happened to me once.

And who would check. Certainly not the OP.

tomtom256

trigger_fish wrote: »

Never caught up with me.


Mind it was years ago.

So fraud is ok then and you advocate people to do it, on the off chance they MAY get away with it?


And before you start we are not discussing tax evasion etc as that is not relevant to this thread.

sangie595

worldlad909 wrote: »

Don't panic and all these people trying to worry you. Firstly give them a ring tomorrow and advise them you have been doing a week or two of temporary work, you have tried to call the DWP on your time restricted breaks in the job but was unable to get through due to the long queues getting through on the automated phone lines and you was not able to call before or after work as the lines are closed. Remember the average time it takes the DWP to answer JSA enquires is 20-45 minutes, more at lunchtime and after 4pm. Also you had a limited budget on your pay as you go phone.

Compound it with another lie? Read the OP. They did this whilst attending to sign on for JSA. So was it impossible for them to open their mouth and say they'd been working to the person they were speaking to, whilst simultaneously signing to say that they hadn't??? That's a lie that is easy to see though. The more lies they tell, the deeper the hole they dig. It's easier to confess to one thing than to cover it with another lie and then end up having to confess to a succession of them. The more lies they are caught in, the more likely it is that the consequences get worse.

sangie595

trigger_fish wrote: »

No one in this thread has questioned that.

However, the stiff moral spine has not thought of this-the OP stated that this was cash in hand work.

All of a sudden his/her NI number is on a payslip. Alarm bells are ringing. Perhaps the payslip is fake. Deductions have been taken but not necessarily forwarded to where they should be going. Happened to me once.

And who would check. Certainly not the OP.

Seriously? The OP commits fraud, and your completely unevidenced "defence" is that it's probably the employer committing fraud? These days, obtaining an NI number for an employee is as easy as entering their details into the live HMRC system when processing them for employment / payroll.

And you are making the error of assuming that employers who pay cash in hand are employing people illegally. There is nothing illegal about employing someone cash in hand. All that means is that your wage will be in cash. Not cheque. Not bank transfer. It does not mean "undeclared to HMRC".

trigger_fish

tomtom256 wrote: »

So fraud is ok then and you advocate people to do it, on the off chance they MAY get away with it?


And before you start we are not discussing tax evasion etc as that is not relevant to this thread.

I never advocated benefit fraud.


If I have please show it to me.

trigger_fish

sangie595 wrote: »

Seriously? The OP commits fraud, and your completely unevidenced "defence" is that it's probably the employer committing fraud? These days, obtaining an NI number for an employee is as easy as entering their details into the live HMRC system when processing them for employment / payroll.

And you are making the error of assuming that employers who pay cash in hand are employing people illegally. There is nothing illegal about employing someone cash in hand. All that means is that your wage will be in cash. Not cheque. Not bank transfer. It does not mean "undeclared to HMRC".

I've never defenced the OP at all. Please read my earlier posts. I don't know a single legitimate employer that pays in cash anymore.


Easy to find peoples NI number-is the employer a psychic?