Prepping for Brexit thread

lessonlearned

Hi.....I don't want to go down the political road, but my understanding is that - in law - once Article 50 was triggered that was it, no turning back.

I could be wrong of course.

At any rate I tend to agree that another referendum, whatever the results, could be disastrous. Emotions are already far too high.

It could be dynamite.

I see the divisions it causes. Among friends, colleagues, and even families.

[Deleted User]

So we'll have to try and think of as many useful ideas to make the transition period as bearable as we can, things to make everyday life less stark and bleak than it could become and try to build communities again. If we're all in straitened circumstances the idea of a lunch club on a 'street by street' level might forge new comradeships and if none of us have the variety of goods we're used to perhaps the putting together of one item each and making a meal we all share from it, a meal we all help make may contribute to a more fraternal future?

lessonlearned

I think "community spirit" is something that can be lacking in some communities, especially in areas where the population is transient. Students, short term renters, or where there is no shared common language.

This is why I think it so important for immigrants to learn English as quickly as possible. Without being able to speak a common tongue they are isolated and cannot take part in their community.

My mum came to England as a war bride with hardly a word of English. She felt lonely and isolated so she made learning English her top priority.

I have lived in my current house for 4 years. At first hardly anyone spoke but I persisted, always deliberately stopping to engage neighbours in conversation. Now they are a nice friendly bunch, even Mr Grumpy across the road has mellowed. :rotfl:

He likes to have a moan so I just listen and then crack a joke and send him on his way with a smile on his face......:D

[Deleted User]

There are many things that could be done to 'make' communities specially if we all face belt tightening and less choice, there are already 'Mending and repair clinics' where things that are not working can be taken and people gather together with skills enough to fix things that would otherwise be dumped and those would be very useful if more places ran them, as would 'swap meets' where things surplus to needs are brought and exchanged for other things in all areas from furniture, to tools, to equipment for sports, gardening, cooking, many, many more depending on what's needed, clothing repair sewing groups set up might extend the life of what we have already by making other items from things that are worn/damaged. Clothing swaps to ring the changes, there is the Local Exchange Trading Scheme (LETS) where skills and commodities are exchanged between members without money changing hands, members agree between themselves the value of the exchange and tokens are used if skills aren't needed. So many ways to make things better!

zeupater

maryb wrote: »

... Loo paper, toothpaste, dishwasher tabs etc here I come. And sugar. They are the only supermarket that sell granulated sugar made from cane sugar and I find it much better for preserving than beet sugar. And beet sugar stinks if you keep it in an airtight container

Hi

Cane sugar ? ..... does it say which EU country it originates from ...

Of all things, I doubt that there'd be much of an issue with lorries of cane sugar queueing up at Dover awaiting customs clearance and there's a strong possibility that if the mess is allowed to be cleared-up properly that cane sugar prices will fall significantly as the EU applies huge protectionism duties of ~100-340 euros/tonne (9p-30p/Kg - depending on country of supply) when landed into the EU ... last time we bought cane sugar it was well under £1/Kg, so there's plenty of scope for trade-deal related price reductions ...

-or-:eek:, depending on which side of the Brexit fence anyone is sitting, but it's surely an example to think about!

HTH
Z

Cappella

Right. Ok.
I voted Remain.
And I'm damned if I'm going to feel guilty about that.
I don't hate the people who voted to leave.
I'm prepared to put up with whatever Brexit throws at us.
I'm not whining, moaning or otherwise complaining about the referendum result. It was a democratic decision and I accept it.
I'm just preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.
But I would just like to quietly point out that, prepper though I am at heart, I really don't want to have to make bearable a transition I didn't actually want in the first place.
I'll do my best, because as far as I can see that's all the choice I have, to make sure that everyone in my immediate family and wider community sail through as easily as possible.
But I don't have to like doing it. Please at least allow me that.

mumf

Cappella wrote: »

Right. Ok.
I voted Remain.
And I'm damned if I'm going to feel guilty about that.
I don't hate the people who voted to leave.
I'm prepared to put up with whatever Brexit throws at us.
I'm not whining, moaning or otherwise complaining about the referendum result. It was a democratic decision and I accept it.
I'm just preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.
But I would just like to quietly point out that, prepper though I am at heart, I really don't want to have to make bearable a transition I didn't actually want in the first place.
I'll do my best, because as far as I can see that's all the choice I have, to make sure that everyone in my immediate family and wider community sail through as easily as possible.
But I don't have to like doing it. Please at least allow me that.

I agree totally.You have said what I am thinking.Thanks.

mardatha

The one thing that unites people is a common enemy... the way this guvt is going on then I think we have one.

puttee

I don't normally contribute to the political type discussions on the internet, but thought I'd share as it is a viewpoint you don't normally hear (not from a celebrity type opinion maker, but a person with knowledge and experience), from a friend who works in logistics management at one of the big supermarket chains. I don't think his views are really unexpected in any case.

Well, his take especially on the hard Brexit will cause a great disruption in the food chain/supply areas, and not just in the short term, but it will take much time to re-source new supplies and make new deals. Especially as there is little time left for alternative arrangements. We import about 30% of our food from the EU, I think 50% in total imports from EU, but also foodstuffs from outside of the EU would be affected as logistical problems will have a knock on effect to other imports, bottlenecks, lack of arrangements, for instance.

What prompted the disccusion was much mention in the press of supermarkets stockpiling for future disruption but he at least says that this is pretty well impossible except for small amounts. Finding suitable extra storage is difficult, he mentioned hygiene, security, safety as well as a scarcity of such buildings in the first place, temperature controlled would be almost impossible to find as these are very sophisticated set ups and competition would be fierce, location is also a major factor, this all adds to the cost (I would assume this would be passed to consumers as supermarkets are there to make profit, not social welfare).


Of course he could be wrong, who knows. And who knows what will happen in the next 8 months which seems a very short time away, but I thought I'd add the above as it is a bit of an insider view.


My personal view: as someone who is generally cautious, I will be gradually putting long shelf life stuff aside in a 'reserve pantry' just in case.



I hope I am not offending anyone, it is not intentional, but I know this is a difficult topic.


Best wishes to all.

[Deleted User]

I think everyone who voted remain is in that same so eloquently expressed position Capella, sore hearted and regretful but having no choice than to make the best each one can of what we find after it happens. Life is having to move on despite all the misgivings and heartache but you can't be happy about it!

The unknown is always daunting and until the reality is with us and we know for certain how things have changed we'll all have teeth on edge however we chose to vote, we'll make it as good as it's possible to make no one can do more than that and we'll grow used to whatever the changes are, maybe not without regrets, but we'll adapt xxx.