Prepping for Brexit thread

VJsmum

Aww best of luck Mrs Stepford, where are you thinking of? Don't forget anywhere in the EU is likely to be affected by right to remain - I am not sure that is sorted yet.... can't say i blame you for wanting to go.

Whatever happens, nothing is ever going to be like it was more than 2 years ago. Even remaining will not mean that things just go back to how they were - we are an irrevocably divided nation now, at least for the foreseeable future. At least in the Blitz we were all on the same side and all blaming one common enemy. Now we are divided, with each side blaming the other - straight down the middle. Thanks Dave... Danny Dyer was right (never thought I'd type that :cool:).

Anyhow it's all going to be ok cos the gubment is going to publish a leaflet to help us cope with a no deal brexit.... :rotfl:

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We may be two opposite sides of a coin over Brexit but we'll ALL have to cope with what we get to live with afterwards and blaming each for it happening or not happening is going to be very counter productive to making a new order of things. We are British both sides, we are responsible for what we make of life so there is no sense in celebrating this happening nor in bitterness because the vote was not what was wanted , it's what has happened, it doesn't look as though there can be any way of changing what has happened and we need to go forward with what we find and make it as good as we can for ALL of us. I'm not going to sit in a morass of misery because I'm going to fight for the best life I can make!

cuddlymarm

Hi Mrs Stepford
Please try not to get upset over what!!!8217;s going with Brexit. It won!!!8217;t do any good. You are best fighting the battles you can win such as looking after you and yours. If you really want to leave the UK then plan for that and start saving for that. I really wouldn!!!8217;t want to move to the US, Europe is an unknown option too. Australia or Canada could be an option if you can offer the right qualifications. But please don!!!8217;t forget that nowhere is perfect and what you have here is what you know about.
A lot of us have been in similar situations to now, with sky high interest rates, high unemployment, property prices dropping, shortages, power cuts etc but the thing is that things do get better over time.
Cuddles
Ps I mean all those things are in the past, not now

mardatha

Another one here who has lived through the 3 day week and strikes and god knows what. I eloped at 16 in 1966 but didn't have kids for a few years because I wanted some space first. Had mine just in time for the 3 day week and the blackouts. Didn't help that husband worked in the docks and was on strike more than he was in work, but we managed and I don't remember it being especially miserable. I do agree that old bats like us have a huge head start on the younger ladies, just because we've been there before and survived it.

VJsmum

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

We may be two opposite sides of a coin over Brexit but we'll ALL have to cope with what we get to live with afterwards and blaming each for it happening or not happening is going to be very counter productive to making a new order of things. We are British both sides, we are responsible for what we make of life so there is no sense in celebrating this happening nor in bitterness because the vote was not what was wanted , it's what has happened, it doesn't look as though there can be any way of changing what has happened and we need to go forward with what we find and make it as good as we can for ALL of us. I'm not going to sit in a morass of misery because I'm going to fight for the best life I can make!

For sure we will. But there is so much bitterness out there that I am afraid for what it will do. I am also used to getting on with it. It's what I DO (I'm sure my gravestone will say "here lies Vjsmum - she coped ). My much loved sister was hugely in favour of leaving. I don't know if she still is, we just don't discuss it, so I shan't be falling out with anyone. I just hope, when (if? Can I cling to that a little longer?) it happens, everyone does pull together.

Good advice about travel plans. My OH is retiring on good Friday (19th April) and we were going to go away to somewhere in Europe... Might have to rethink that one....

lessonlearned

An old boss once taught me a game he called Worse Case Scenario.

Basically when faced with a potential disaster you ask yourself "what is the absolute worst that can happen, and if it did happen how would I deal with it". So then you work out a solution. Then you Ask yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 the worst) how likely is it that the worst case will happen.

And the Answer??? ....well it's rarely a 10. :rotfl:

And then you just work backwards. When the event happens then you are prepared. You will have formulated a plan and probably several back up plans. Sometimes the event doesn't even happen, it just swerves out of your orbit.

In mine and many other widows cases, the worst that can happen to us, has, in fact, already happened. We have lost the partner we loved and we are now alone.

Ladies if the worst comes to the worst and your house is cold if you have a partner then you can cuddle up to keep warm...:D. I won't even be able to do that. . Maybe I should get a nice big dog......

Mrs Stepford If you decide to leave the UK then I wish you well. The only advice I would give is don't burn your bridges, make sure you can come home again if it doesn't work out as well as you hoped.I have known many people who have emigrated and then come home again.

Yeah brexit will happen, one way or another. No one really knows how it will pan out. In the long run, who knows maybe UK PLC will experience a golden age. However I think it's fair to say the transition period might be tricky so once I've moved I will be starting some preparation. I have made a few plans already.

I will need to have a small mortgage, so I have taken the precaution of fixing it for 5 years. The house I have chosen has more than one power source. It also has an open chimney which I will either use as it is, or might get a multi fuel burner.....depends on the condition of the chimney and how much it will cost to get it converted. I will lay down some supplies of non perishable items. And I will also lay down a supply of wood and coal.

I also have small bioethanol fire, so will buy some extra fuel for that. Extra candles, some battery operated lighting, a couple of wind up torches, a radio, a couple of hot water bottles. A small camping stove and some calor gas. A stack of books and I can ride out being housebound in bad weather quite happily.

I do need to do some renovations to the house but I will go in slowly and take my time, doing as much as I can myself to keep costs down and not deplete my savings too much.

Playing the "old bat" card here.....but I was bought up in quite a poor household, we didn't have much......no central heating, no double glazing, rationed hot water and bless her, but mum wasn't the best of cooks, so we had some strange meals but we never went hungry. I walked everywhere in all weathers. It did me no harm, in fact I think my upbringing toughened me up, because I grew up strong and healthy.

We older ones aren't frightened because we have lived through difficult times but I think our experiences have taught us well and we do realise that we have to be ready. I think it is perhaps the younger ones who are more nervous. It's fear of the unknown. Being in Unchartered territory can be very scary but I genuinely think it won't be half as bad as some people fear, but I would advise people to try and plan ahead.

Tbh I think there are greater forces at work that have the potential to undermine our future comfort and stability but I won't dwell on them or I will scare us all half to death. :rotfl:

VJsmum

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

We may be two opposite sides of a coin over Brexit but we'll ALL have to cope with what we get to live with afterwards and blaming each for it happening or not happening is going to be very counter productive to making a new order of things. We are British both sides, we are responsible for what we make of life so there is no sense in celebrating this happening nor in bitterness because the vote was not what was wanted , it's what has happened, it doesn't look as though there can be any way of changing what has happened and we need to go forward with what we find and make it as good as we can for ALL of us. I'm not going to sit in a morass of misery because I'm going to fight for the best life I can make!

As always, you speak wise words Mrs LW. I won't be in a morass of misery either, <<sigh>> even if sometimes I'd like to be (not about Brexit! Just generally). I don't seem to be made like that I am liking the phrase "morass of misery". - I may steal it.

fuddle

Some of the younger ones aren't frightened either. That doesn't mean that there's a stoic, put up and shut up attitude, it just means that life has taught that thing s change all the time, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worst. If Brexit causes problems to the life that we all know, then in dealing with those problems will bring about another layer of our personality that will turn out to be character building.

VJ's I agree, there's bitterness and it's that that frightens me, but life through time just hasn't been fair. It's life. I know I don't have to tell you that though.

While people win, people lose. If you're losing then you either chin up or you die. We have the survival instinct for a reason and it does kick in.

Ultimately, what is happening now is that there are divisions. These are serious stuff but what I would like the remain side to think about is that very first vote that saw us become united within the EU. Before my time so I can't talk about it. Maybe accept that life within the EU isn't and hasn't been like it was billed out to be all those years ago? I don't know but I do know governments like to divide society. It waters down opposition

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Atta girl! Nil illegetemi carborundum! (my latin spelling is completely phonetic and in no way accurate) but the sentiment is the same whatever language you use!

If something is going to happen then it will and we'll all have to get on as best we can but that's not enough in the long run we HAVE to make it as good as we can because it's OUR future too. Wasting time in recrimination and ire is fruitless and good time wasted as it changes nothing. Better far to look ahead and plan how to make it as good and comfortable as we can eh? xxx.

MrsStepford

Xavier Bertrand, the Nord Pas de Calais regional president, has a meeting with Tory MPs in Westminster over the Dover-Calais situation. He talks about it to The Guardian.
He asked them if it was true that people were being advised to stockpile food and they said yes.

On Twitter this morning, a journalist is reporting that a Government spokesperson told him that leaflets will be sent to businesses and households, advising on stockpiling.

In Britain, in the 21st century, in peacetime this is utter madness.

Yesterday a Government agency admitted in a report that there is NO Brexit dividend.

Not one lorry park has been built for March. The new customs software system was designed for freight movements within EU isn't ready yet and would not function. Port of Dover states that a 2 min delay would cause a 17 mile tailback. Calais port has bought 72 hectares of land to accommodate trucks, Port of Dover doesn't have room.

James Patrick, author, journalist and former Met Police officer is saying that his research shows that food would run out in five days. The

Older people here and elsewhere are being incredibly naive in saying we would be OK. Many pensioners struggle now financially. What happens to private pensions when the stock market goes into meltdown ? What happens to the UK 's biggest single item of expenditure, welfare, when the service sector (80% of our economy) isn't included, regardless of deal or no deal ?

The world has changed since the 1930s.

Btw austerity has nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with the Tories.

Remainers will never accept the result of an advisory referendum secured by cheating as being legitimate. We will carry on fighting.