Smart Parking fine in NI

Delta_peters

Hi just read over the newbie thread and I may have picked it up wrong but I’m in Northern Ireland and I’m wondering if I follow the same template of appeal? Or does it say do NOT appeal?
I’m the registered keeper, the driver of the car was waiting outside the Job & employment office while another person went inside. I think a total of 30mins. They actually tried to get change inside but couldn’t and thought it would be fine, the security guard said not to worry if there was someone in the vehicle. They’ve done this loads of times.
Do I have no option but to pay it on this occasion?
Thanks in advance

Quentin

Re-read the Newbies FAQ thread

There's clear separate advice for ni residents!

No need for a thread over this!

If you have inadvertently used your real name as your forum name then ask MSE to change it to something completely anonymous

The ppcs monitor this forum and can use your posts against you

The_Deep

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.

Fruitcake

You have not received a fine. You have received a speculative invoice from a scammer.

The NEWBIES gives specific advice to keepers in NI and Scotland and you should follow it precisely. You will not find anything anywhere telling you that you should pay.

Does the NTK mention anything about the POFA?

In addition to this, you should complain to your MP and Sir Greg Knight MP about this unregulated scam.

glentoran99

Bin it and forget about it, Appeals, popla etc don't apply over here

Delta_peters

Is below all the info from the newbie thread I need to know then? Just keep the letters and ignore?
Sorry if this is a tedious question, I just want to to be sure and then I’ll close the thread.
Also it’s not my real name. Thanks again
Q - ''I'm in Scotland/NI, so is the advice different?''

A - IF THE EVENT TOOK PLACE IN SCOTLAND OR NI, WE SUGGEST YOU DO (ALWAYS!) COMPLAIN TO STORE MANAGEMENT IF YOUR PCN IS FROM A RETAIL PARK, BUT DO NOT APPEAL, UNLESS YOUR CAR IS A COMPANY/HIRE/LEASED VEHICLE, IN WHICH CASE, APPEAL AS HIRER/LESSEE (SEE * AT THE FOOT OF THIS POST).

IN SCOTLAND/NI, DO NOT BE ALARMED BY ODD POSTS SUGGESTING YOU SHOULD 'NAME THE DRIVER'...FOR OBVIOUS REASONS THIS IS NOT THE MAJORITY VIEW AND SIMPLY ABANDONS THE DRIVER (USUALLY A FAMILY MEMBER) TO THE PARKING SHARKS, WITH A LESS STRONG DEFENCE. CERTAINLY COMPLAIN TO THE RETAILERS, BUT IGNORE THE PARKING FIRM UNLESS YOU GET A CLAIM. IN SCOTLAND THIS IS EXCEEDINGLY RARE, AND DEFENDABLE BY A KEEPER, WHO CURRENTLY HAS A FAR MORE PROTECTED POSITION IN LAW THAN AN ADMITTED DRIVER.

WHEN IGNORING IN SCOTLAND/NI, KEEP ALL LETTERS. DO NOT THROW THEM AWAY, FOR 5 YEARS.

KeithP

Yes.

As Quentin wrote one minute after your original question:

Quentin wrote: »

There's clear separate advice for ni residents!

No need for a thread over this!

Fruitcake

Delta_peters wrote: »

Is below all the info from the newbie thread I need to know then? Just keep the letters and ignore?
Sorry if this is a tedious question, I just want to to be sure and then I!!!8217;ll close the thread.
Also it!!!8217;s not my real name. Thanks again
Q - ''I'm in Scotland/NI, so is the advice different?''

A - IF THE EVENT TOOK PLACE IN SCOTLAND OR NI, WE SUGGEST YOU DO (ALWAYS!) COMPLAIN TO STORE MANAGEMENT IF YOUR PCN IS FROM A RETAIL PARK, BUT DO NOT APPEAL, UNLESS YOUR CAR IS A COMPANY/HIRE/LEASED VEHICLE, IN WHICH CASE, APPEAL AS HIRER/LESSEE (SEE * AT THE FOOT OF THIS POST).

IN SCOTLAND/NI, DO NOT BE ALARMED BY ODD POSTS SUGGESTING YOU SHOULD 'NAME THE DRIVER'...FOR OBVIOUS REASONS THIS IS NOT THE MAJORITY VIEW AND SIMPLY ABANDONS THE DRIVER (USUALLY A FAMILY MEMBER) TO THE PARKING SHARKS, WITH A LESS STRONG DEFENCE. CERTAINLY COMPLAIN TO THE RETAILERS, BUT IGNORE THE PARKING FIRM UNLESS YOU GET A CLAIM. IN SCOTLAND THIS IS EXCEEDINGLY RARE, AND DEFENDABLE BY A KEEPER, WHO CURRENTLY HAS A FAR MORE PROTECTED POSITION IN LAW THAN AN ADMITTED DRIVER.

WHEN IGNORING IN SCOTLAND/NI, KEEP ALL LETTERS. DO NOT THROW THEM AWAY, FOR 5 YEARS.

The above NEWBIES thread was last edited three days ago. I do not believe the advice specific to NI has changed since then.

Please do complain to the MPs already mentioned.


Every little helps.

thefreckle

I hope you don't mind me hijacking this thread.


I have received a parking ticket from Car Park Services after parking in a private car park in NI (Belfast).


I know the advice is to ignore and under normal circumstances I would do that. However I use that car park on a regular basis and wanted to check if I can be clamped by CPS at a later date for non-payment of a fine.


Any ideas?

Quentin

No hi jacking here!


You need to start your own thread

waamo

Whilst clamping hasn't been banned in NI clamping for an alleged debt wouldn't be lawful.