is Electrical Installation Condition Report ok for building regs?

Gehngus

Hi.
Is Electrical Installation Condition Report ok for building regs. sold the house, i dont actually need it as the house was sold with some works to do, but i thought i would be good to tick it off.

i need final inspections from regs for an extension.
they asked if i have electric certificate which i havent got. complicated story. one electritian just went missing, the next had a strike and retired, the last wouldnt sign off as he hadnt done most of the work.. very frustrating.

i phoned local firm and told them what i needed, and explained it was only the extension i needed checking.
they insited i had to have a whole hose inspection which drumed up a bit more work due to part of the building being wired 25 years ago thus no longer up to modern regs.

I paid £250 for some work and the inspection. no problem.

i have recieved a Electrical Installation Condition Report which say all is satisfactory but it doesnt sat certificate on it and now i cant make sense of what this company is saying.

question is.. is this Electrical Installation Condition Report likley to satisfy buiding regs?

many thanks

tacpot12

The EICR will not help with the Building Regulations Consent. The new owner will need to apply for retrospective Building Regulation Consent from the Local Authority. A building inspector will need to come out to the property to inspect the work and, if they are satisfied that it complies with Building Regulations they will issue a !!!8220;Regularisation Certificate!!!8221;. This will allow the new owner to be fully insured and certain that no enforcement action will be taken against them.

Paying building control to do the inspection would have been a much better option than paying the local firm of electricians to complete an EICR. The EICR will be useful to the new owner, but is not the same as Building Control consent.

If the sale is still going through (i.e. you have exchanged contracts yet), the purchaser may want you to pay for indemnity insurance against any Building Control enforcement action (to bring the installation up to an acceptable standard).

dimbo61

I do believe a EICR needs to be for the whole property.
They are saying the electrics are safe not just the extension.
I paid £160 and the electrician had nothing to FIX

anselld

dimbo61 wrote: »

I do believe a EICR needs to be for the whole property.
They are saying the electrics are safe not just the extension.
I paid £160 and the electrician had nothing to FIX

These are two completely different things.

An EICR does need to be for the whole property but it has nothing to do with Building Regs Compliance and is not necessary for a sale.

What has presumably been asked for it the Building Regs Certificate for the work done to the extension. That only needs to be for the work done and the EICR does not satisfy that specific requirement.

Gehngus

The extension has been done through building regs but requires the final inspection.
But the electrician that did the electricals disn't give a certificate and has gone.

Building regs said to have electric certificate for them when they come to do the final inspection.
Hope this helps

anselld

Gehngus wrote: »

The extension has been done through building regs but requires the final inspection.
But the electrician that did the electricals disn't give a certificate and has gone.

You should not have paid him before he gave the certificate. Can you not contact him?

Gehngus wrote: »

Building regs said to have electric certificate for them when they come to do the final inspection.
Hope this helps

Ask them. They may be willing to inspect the electrics themselves, but they usually rely on self-certification by qualified electrician.

Gehngus

EICR was indeed for the whole house. everything passed so it covered work done also and building regs were quite happy with it as were the buyers.
house has now sold and all is well.
many thanks

ProDave

Can you clarify which country you are in? (England, Scotland, Wales or NI) Each have different rules.

What building control want is the Part P certificate (assuming England or Wales) Part P imposes some additional requirements on the electrical installation over and above the wiring regs, and requires an electrician who is a member of a competent persons scheme (e.g NICEIC or similar) to sign that the installation is compliant with Part P and notify it on line.

In some places (not all) building control will do the inspections and sign off part P, but they would have needed to inspect the wiring before it was covered up.

In theory a part P electrician can sign off others work, but very few are willing to take on that responsibility.

All you can do is explain what happened re the first electrician, present the EICR you have, and see what resolution they suggest. And please let us know as I see this question often, but nobody ever tells us how it was resolved in the end.

Doozergirl

ProDave wrote: »

Can you clarify which country you are in? (England, Scotland, Wales or NI) Each have different rules.

What building control want is the Part P certificate (assuming England or Wales) Part P imposes some additional requirements on the electrical installation over and above the wiring regs, and requires an electrician who is a member of a competent persons scheme (e.g NICEIC or similar) to sign that the installation is compliant with Part P and notify it on line.

In some places (not all) building control will do the inspections and sign off part P, but they would have needed to inspect the wiring before it was covered up.

In theory a part P electrician can sign off others work, but very few are willing to take on that responsibility.

All you can do is explain what happened re the first electrician, present the EICR you have, and see what resolution they suggest. And please let us know as I see this question often, but nobody ever tells us how it was resolved in the end.

They just did. The OP was 4 months ago. They've come back to update.

A full explanation to the building inspector and a full test of the electrics is the only way to show any kind of compliance in those circumstances. One has to cross one's fingers! Thankfully it paid off for the OP.