Interview I had no chance of getting

Doshwaster

I've been to loads of job interviews that I probably had no chance of getting but at least it is a way of getting experience in how to handle difficult interviews.

Being refunded the train fare is reasonable but I wouldn't expect any employer to pay for the time taken off work.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

JReacher1 wrote: »

LOL. What a ridiculous statement :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Of course people fail interviews. I assume you have been unsuccessful in a lot of job interviews and your mum has told you that you didn!!!8217;t fail the interview you were just overqualified for the job

No, I have a well enough paid job in IT development thanks. My mother doesn't have much to do with anything.

And people don't fail interviews. There's no pass/fail. It's an assessment of whether you fit in to the role they want you to do.

You may have spent your life interviewing for minimum wage jobs where they take anyone who meets basic qualifications, in which case pass/fail may be appropriate terminology; I wouldn't know. In most jobs I deal with nobody gets near the interview unless they are appropriately qualified and experienced, which rules out 99.999999% of people, and then you just take the one you like the look of most. Saying the others "failed the interview" is what is ridiculous. Some may have done badly, some may have done exceptionally well but just not been as good a fit as the person you take. They might well have done better at interview, but had less impressive experience.

I am sorry I didn't use rolling laughing faces. I realise that adds strength to an argument in your eyes, but I am old fashioned and prefer words.

marliepanda

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

. Saying the others "failed the interview" is what is ridiculous. Some may have done badly, some may have done exceptionally well but just not been as good a fit as the person you take. They might well have done better at interview, but had less impressive experience.

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I think 'doing badly' and 'failed' can be fairly interchangeable. Many interviews have aptitude tests and scenarios which certainly can be failed, no matter how good an application form is.

JReacher1

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

No, I have a well enough paid job in IT development thanks.

Yes I bet you do

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

marliepanda wrote: »

I think 'doing badly' and 'failed' can be fairly interchangeable. Many interviews have aptitude tests and scenarios which certainly can be failed, no matter how good an application form is.

My point is that you don't have to do badly at an interview to not get the job. You can do superbly well and not get the job. If there's one job and five candidates it's absurd to say the four who are not selected "failed the interview", particularly when the one who was best at interview may well not have been offered the job.

Aptitude tests are not an interview. You may do them at the same time as the interview in some cases, but they are not an interview; they are part of the process.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

JReacher1 wrote: »

Yes I bet you do

Yes, I do. I don't know why you find it so hard to believe. It appears to be your view that anyone who doesn't talk about "failing interviews" can't possibly be employed. I can prove you wrong if you want to PM me an email address; I very much doubt you'll take me up on that though.

Red-Squirrel_2

marliepanda wrote: »

I think 'doing badly' and 'failed' can be fairly interchangeable. Many interviews have aptitude tests and scenarios which certainly can be failed, no matter how good an application form is.

A lot of employers use a point scoring interview process now too, in the interests of fairness and transparency.

My current employer has in the past not recruited anybody from a cohort of interviewees and has re-advertised the post instead. I'd say that's a good example of failing at interview!

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

A lot of employers use a point scoring interview process now too, in the interests of fairness and transparency.

My current employer has in the past not recruited anybody from a cohort of interviewees and has re-advertised the post instead. I'd say that's a good example of failing at interview!

Nobody is saying people can't be unsuccessful at interviews. The point is that you can't say some who didn't get a job "failed the interview", it's not a pass/fail situation. If I ask questions at an interview and learn more about someone's level of experience and knowledge, it doesn't mean they have failed anything if they can't answer as I might like. I have just learned more about them. There's nothing they could have done differently.

I accept that for some jobs there are associated tests etc, but they are not "interviews" - they are tests.

Red-Squirrel_2

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

Nobody is saying people can't be unsuccessful at interviews. The point is that you can't say some who didn't get a job "failed the interview", it's not a pass/fail situation. If I ask questions at an interview and learn more about someone's level of experience and knowledge, it doesn't mean they have failed anything if they can't answer as I might like. I have just learned more about them. There's nothing they could have done differently.

I accept that for some jobs there are associated tests etc, but they are not "interviews" - they are tests.

I think you knew what was meant, you're being a bit fussy.

JReacher1

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

Yes, I do. I don't know why you find it so hard to believe. It appears to be your view that anyone who doesn't talk about "failing interviews" can't possibly be employed. I can prove you wrong if you want to PM me an email address; I very much doubt you'll take me up on that though.

I would give you an email address but I am worried about GDPR....

The definition of fail is :- "be unsuccessful in achieving one's goal."

If after you have attended an interview you do not obtain the position then you have been unsuccessful in achieving your goal i.e. you have failed.

Ironically (although you won't believe this) I am actually an IT project manager and regularly interview developers. Many of them fail the interview!