Collision while being overtaken

tho_2

Why isn't it the same? We only have the Ops description of the road. It sounds dangerous sure, but as they refuse to give us a street view or the dash cam, the overtake might have been safe as houses. I doubt it myself, but another question. The op is open the other driver was driving aggressively and wanting to pass, why would they wait to commit in/on a corner?

The other driver was alongside, therefore established in the next lane. At which point highway code 168 makes the OP just as responsible for what happens next.

George_Michael

tho wrote: »

The other driver was alongside, therefore established in the next lane. At which point highway code 168 makes the OP just as responsible for what happens next.

Correct. However HC rule 163 states that you should only overtake if safe to do so. If they were approaching a blind bend, I wouldn't call that safe.
The rule 166 specifically states that you should not overtake when approaching a bend.

The OP might be telling the complete truth or they may be bull5hitting but without knowing for certain one way or the other, I think it's only fair to post based on what they have stated.

When people post questions regarding problems they are experiencing on the consumer rights forum, the travel forums, the ebay forum etc, people generally accept their version of events and give advice and opinions accordingly.
For some reason, the motoring forum is often different with certain posters automatically attacking the OP's and accusing them of not telling the truth.
Why is this particular forum different to the others? Is it because once the driving ability of people is mentioned, the testosterone starts pumping?
After all, if they are telling the truth, any replies can only help them and if they are lying, any replies won't do them any good whatsoever.

sheramber

The OP was not going round a bend

I was focusing on the corner ahead as if any traffic had come round I would had to have been ready to react, which I why I knew it was safe to avoid the pot-hole. I didn’t move more than about a foot to avoid the hole, it’s not like I darted into the center of the road or anything.

The corner was ahead.

I didn’t move more than about a foot

If the road was narrow for two cars side by side then moving a foot is a big part of the available space.

RichardD1970

AdrianC wrote: »

The OP clarified that it was wide enough for two cars side-by-side, and that their initial "single-track" was in error.

tsharp12 wrote: »

Yes what I refer to as a single track road is a country lane with no markings only wide enough for 2 cars if someone is driving in the dirt on one the verges - you have to slow to pass on these roads.

But, since the OP has long left this thread after stating that they will not be sharing it, because they do not want opinions on their driving (despite having asked for them)...

Where does he ask for opinions on his driving?

If we are to believe the OP (and why wouldn't we?) then they didn't move more than 12", so how close was the other car passing? And should they have even been performing an overtake on a bend, regardless of sighting.

RichardD1970

sheramber wrote: »

The OP was not going round a bend

tsharp12 wrote: »

The next bend in the road I swerved to avoid a pot-hole

sheramber wrote: »

If the road was narrow for two cars side by side then moving a foot is a big part of the available space.

So the other driver shouldn't have been attempting to overtake.

George_Michael

AdrianC wrote: »

Where have you got "blind" from, because the OP doesn't mention it anywhere? The OP just says that they were going round a bend at the time, no mention of the severity or the sight lines.

Firstly, the OP didn't state that they were going around a bend. They stated that they were approaching the bend.
Secondly, if the OP had to focus on the bend in case any traffic came around it, I would say that if they could only see other vehicles once they had come around that bend, that it pretty much the exact definition of a blind bend.

tsharp12 wrote: »

I was focusing on the corner ahead as if any traffic had come round I would had to have been ready to react.

AdrianC

George_Michael wrote: »

Firstly, the OP didn't state that they were going around a bend. They stated that they were approaching the bend.

From the very first post in the thread...

tsharp12 wrote: »

The next bend in the road I swerved to avoid a pot-hole

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Where does he ask for opinions on his driving?

Perhaps not explicitly, but from the very first post in the thread...

tsharp12 wrote: »

How will they decide who's fault it was?
...

Never been in this situation before. I am certain I did nothing wrong but the other driver has made me doubt myself

George_Michael

Fair enough, the OP has given conflicting information regarding their proximity to the bend.
However, as you seem to believe the fact that they were going around the bend when the incident occurred, don't you think that the other driver must accept some of the blame for overtaking on a bend especially as the OP's description gives the impression that it was a blind bend?

AdrianC

If the impact had been with an oncoming vehicle, yes.

It wasn't. It was simply because the OP didn't use their mirrors. "But I didn't think he'd overtake there" is not an excuse not to know what's very, very close to you. The other car's front wing and the OP's rear door hit.

Given that we know the OP exaggerated "single track lane", and that they clearly did not know the other car was even there, I find the other car being on the verge very hard to accept at face value.

George_Michael

AdrianC wrote: »

I find the other car being on the verge very hard to accept at face value.

Yet you have no problem believing the OP when they stated that they were on the bend rather than the bit where they stated that they were approaching it.
With people picking and choosing what parts of what people write to believe, only picking the bits that help their point of view, is it any wonder that posters such as the OP don't return or don't give too much information?

If I was going around a blind bend, I very much doubt if I would be looking in my mirror to see if I was about to be overtaken especially if I had to make a split second decision to avoid a hazard in the road and no doubt you will say that this makes me a poor driver but in reality, it's probably what most drivers would do if they were honest rather that trying to prove a point on a forum.