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Neighbour blocked garage with fence

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  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    OP should be thankful that neighbour didn't erect the fence when the OP's car was still in his garage. Can you imagine if you came out of your house after having a day off to find the fence suddenly erected, knowing your car was now stuck in the garage! That would be a whole lot worse.

    A few years ago there was a thread on the gardenlaw site about just that situation.

    I think it took about a year before it was settled and the car released into freedom.
  • UKSBD
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    I am not a solicitor in any shape or form, no.

    On the plus side, once you have sorted out parking at the front, your house may actually have increased in value. The shared access will put a lot of people off buying (as you can see from this thread alone) and having secure parking at front and no potential hassle may well be more desirable than having a garage but with the additional negative of shared access. It certainly would be more desirable for me.

    As long as I had enough room to park at the front I would much prefer a fence the full length of the boundary than have a neighbour using my half of the land, especially if they started driving cars within a foot of my property every day.

    By the neighbour doing it, the OP has gained a free fence, an extra 3 or 4 inches of land, and better privacy.

    See it as a positive OP but do something do the garage so it looks as though it was always an outbuilding rather than a garage, then by the time you come to sell, the new purchasers might not even know it was ever a garage.
  • Red-Squirrel_2
    Red-Squirrel_2 Posts: 4,341 Forumite
    And maybe then the neighbour will decide to pour battery acid over the shiny new mini while the OP is asleep. And it would serve him right, if he behaved in such a petulant, childish way when nobody has done anything they didn't have a perfect legal and moral right to do.

    Serve him right? Loads of people do up bikes or cars in their garages just because that's what they want to do and they enjoy it, my next door neighbour does for one! Do I have the right to go and pour battery acid over his prized possession just because it makes noise?
  • Red-Squirrel_2
    Red-Squirrel_2 Posts: 4,341 Forumite
    UKSBD wrote: »

    See it as a positive OP but do something do the garage so it looks as though it was always an outbuilding rather than a garage, then by the time you come to sell, the new purchasers might not even know it was ever a garage.

    Do you not think all the identical semis with garages in the same place might give the game away a bit on that one?
  • Smodlet
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    spadoosh wrote: »
    Wouldn't discussion of access to a garage be moot if they both built up to the boundary?

    Worked out where im going yet?

    Nowhere, imho. Pointless remark as planning permission would not be granted again, imho but it does sound as if there would be more than enough people to object if a mere fence has caused this furore.
  • pimento
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    Smodlet wrote: »
    If both did that, what was two pairs of semis would become a terrace of four houses. I think there might be serious objections to that and doubt planning permission would be granted, not least because it would devalue 4 properties and create a world of ill-feeling... Which would have to be declared in the event of a sale of any of them.

    Well yes, but there's bad feeling already.

    I'd just want to put the wind up.
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
  • pimento
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    Smodlet wrote: »
    Nowhere, imho. Pointless remark as planning permission would not be granted again, imho but it does sound as if there would be more than enough people to object if a mere fence has caused this furore.


    Whoooooosh!
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
  • PasturesNew
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    Why can't (some) people just accept the law of the land.

    Both parties bought land and a house, with rights.

    Nobody has broken the law. The fence is legal. Whether the neighbour could/should've mentioned it is moot as the neighbour was entirely within their rights to erect a fence on their boundary on their land.

    There's a "mob/mad mentality" creeping into the culture that is distasteful when people consider "revenge" when somebody else has the full law of the land squarely on their side.

    The neighbour built a fence, didn't mention it. That's life. Annoying if it were unexpected and inconvenient, but entirely within the law of the land and the deeds (as verified by professional legal advice) .... and you have to then move forward in whatever way you then deem to be fit to "live and let live" without causing a nuisance because some bloke had the audacity to do something lawful that was his right.

    I can fully understand the OP's annoyance, distress, upset, panic when it occurred, but the OP is entirely level-headed.... but there certainly seem to be some "mob rule" types sliding into the discussion, which shocks me!

    The law is clear. The OP checked. The neighbour was within their rights to do it. It's now "in the past" and only a fool would form a vendetta of any sort over it.
  • UKSBD
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    Do you not think all the identical semis with garages in the same place might give the game away a bit on that one?


    He may find that 2 or 3 others up the same street do the same thing when they see how much nicer it is.
  • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
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    edited 30 April 2018 at 5:31PM
    Serve him right? Loads of people do up bikes or cars in their garages just because that's what they want to do and they enjoy it, my next door neighbour does for one! Do I have the right to go and pour battery acid over his prized possession just because it makes noise?

    If he is doing it only to annoy you as the poster I replied to suggested he should, then morally, yes. Legally no, of course.

    It's not a matter of right anyway. It's a matter of knowing that if you get into one of these moronic contests, be aware that the other person might take it further than you want, and you'll only have yourself to blame.

    Do you agree with the poster I replied to who suggested he start deliberately upsetting his neighbour?
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