Roundabout logic and mistakes.

sheramber

Highway Code 185
185
When reaching the roundabout you should

give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off.
186
When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

select the appropriate lane on approach to and on the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.

We had a roundabout that had three lane approaching it. Lane 1 marked left or straight on, lane 2 marked straight on and lane 3 right turn.
BUT there was only one lane on the exit from the roundabout.

So, two lanes exiting into one lane with resulting problems.

A complaint to the council resulted in the lane markings being changed to one lane for left, one for straight on and one for right turn.

Cornucopia

Tiexen wrote: »

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EmmyLou30

I think the OP has confused a few people by getting their inside and outside lanes mixed up. They said they were on the outside and mini on the inside....I think they mean the other way around.


So mini in the left lane on approach and should have exited at the first exit, OP is in the right lane for straight over which he tried to do and suddenly found a mini trying to squeeze up his left hand side inventing it's own lane and getting !!!!y about it. I have the same happen on a roundabout I use daily. The left lane is for left and disappears....but you still get idiots who realise they've gone wrong and try and force themselves up your left hand side instead.

Car_54

EmmyLou30 wrote: »

I think the OP has confused a few people by getting their inside and outside lanes mixed up. They said they were on the outside and mini on the inside....I think they mean the other way around.


So mini in the left lane on approach and should have exited at the first exit, OP is in the right lane for straight over which he tried to do and suddenly found a mini trying to squeeze up his left hand side inventing it's own lane and getting !!!!y about it. I have the same happen on a roundabout I use daily. The left lane is for left and disappears....but you still get idiots who realise they've gone wrong and try and force themselves up your left hand side instead.

But nothing the OP has said suggests that the LH lane disappears or that the mini invented its own lane.

"Outside" and "inside" cause confusion, particularly on roundabouts. That's why the police use Lane 1, lane 2, etc.

tho_2

Car_54 wrote: »

But nothing the OP has said suggests that the LH lane disappears or that the mini invented its own lane.

"Outside" and "inside" cause confusion, particularly on roundabouts. That's why the police use Lane 1, lane 2, etc.

Yes they have. The mini was in a turn left only lane. They ignored that direction.

sevenhills

bonnyrigger wrote: »

In support of the OP there is a roundabout like this on the A7 at Eskbank, the approach from the SW has two lanes, the LH entry is for 1st exit only (i.e. it ceases to exist after that point), the RH entry "owns" all the lanes after that exit including the outer lane of the roundabout for going straight on (2nd exit) or into a store (3rd exit).
Sorry I can't post a Google Maps link being a new user.
However in this case the "near miss" would occur on the roundabout itself rather than on the exit - and would definitely not be the OP's fault.

That is what I was thinking. A number of roundabouts that I use have lanes that direct the motorist to where they are going, often with the number of the A road marked in white.

Car_54

tho wrote: »

Yes they have. The mini was in a turn left only lane. They ignored that direction.

The OP said there were two lanes on approach. Nowhere has he suggested that the roundabout reduced to one lane after the first exit, so we must assume it remained two-lane with the OP in lane 2.

BTW it was not a "turn left only" lane. Any arrow is indicative, not mandatory, unless it actually says "TURN LEFT", which would be unusual at a roundabout.

tho_2

Either way. I'm not accepting the op as the incompetent one. Yes you should check anyway but at some point you trust other drivers, or else you'd never get off your driveway. Someone who ploughs over a great big left arrow and drives straight on is clearly at fault.

Car_54

tho wrote: »

Either way. I'm not accepting the op as the incompetent one. Yes you should check anyway but at some point you trust other drivers, or else you'd never get off your driveway. Someone who ploughs over a great big left arrow and drives straight on is clearly at fault.

Agreed. Both at fault.

Marvel1

Car_54 wrote: »

The OP said there were two lanes on approach. Nowhere has he suggested that the roundabout reduced to one lane after the first exit, so we must assume it remained two-lane with the OP in lane 2.

Exactly, we shouldn't assume it remained a 2 lane either.