How can Vodafone flout the EU roaming laws?

Nick_C

Obviously there are differences of opinion on this. Both sides are arguable. We won't have definitive unless this goes to court.

My opinion is that Vodaphone is acting illegally, but they could have got around this by setting up a subsidiary to offer these tariffs.

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EABowden wrote: »

That's not what the EU regulation, adopted by the UK govt, says.

It doesn't say operators can offer roaming and non-roaming tariffs.

It also doesn't say they can't but that wouldn't suit your agenda would it?

EABowden wrote: »

In law, the customer should reasonably expect all Vodafone's tariffs to include roaming, because broadcasters like the BBC told them there is no such thing as roaming any more

What law would that be? Certainly not the regulations you keep misquoting or taking out of context.

EABowden wrote: »

Presumably you work for Vodafone's legal department. Otherwise I can't see why anyone could possibly support a company that rips off customers with tricks like this, not to mention how it evades tax on an epic scale.

Ahh, the old you don't agree with me so you must work for them gambit that's trotted out by people who have lost the argument but are too ignorant to admit it.

EAB2

It clearly states that if an operator offers roaming it can't charge extra. Vodafone offers roaming and charges extra.

But feel free to make yourself look simple by arguing otherwise.

pmduk

EABowden wrote: »

In law, the customer should reasonably expect all Vodafone's tariffs to include roaming, because broadcasters like the BBC told them there is no such thing as roaming any more

Which Law?

EABowden wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40281013

This article specifically states that the regulations have not been adopted into UK law. Don't forget roaming covers so much more than the EU.

Be very careful, it is possible to libel a company. There is a huge difference between avoidance and evasion.

boo_star

pmduk wrote: »

Which Law?


This article specifically states that the regulations have not been adopted into UK law. Don't forget roaming covers so much more than the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_(European_Union)

A regulation is a legal act of the European Union[1] that becomes immediately enforceable as law in all member states simultaneously.[2][3] Regulations can be distinguished from directives which, at least in principle, need to be transposed into national law. Regulations can be adopted by means of a variety of legislative procedures depending on their subject matter.

They've not been incorporated into UK law because they don't need to be.

EAB2

I've changed my accusation to avoidance, which it seems is the non libellous statement. Please delete my quote from your reply.

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EABowden wrote: »

I've changed my accusation to avoidance, which it seems is the non libellous statement. Please delete my quote from your reply.

Hahahahaha, coward

Ian011

You have been confused by the "not charge more" requirement. This is a per customer requirement. A customer who goes abroad cannot be charged more than if that same customer were using their phone in the UK.

The regulations say nothing about a customer with roaming arrangements paying more for all of their calls (whether roaming, or in the UK) than a different customer without roaming arrangements pays for all of their calls.