Where have all the 20 something’s gone?

AdrianC

economic wrote: »

It depends where you buy it. If you buy soft drinks at a bar or a vending machine or a small local shop or a restaurant - there is usually markups when bought at these places.

Of course. However, Cakeguts did explicitly say "A supermarket is selling..."

economic

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

:rotfl:Has anyone ever told you that Britain is a country where we marry for love? I'm guessing you may be used to witnessing arranged marriages - but that's not how things are in Britain. That's certainly the theory anyway - even though I've seen a noticeable number of people "settle" for Someone Else (instead of waiting for Mr/Miss Right to come along - and accepting that they'll never marry if they don't meet that person).

Would be very interested to know how one is supposed to fall in love to order with someone older/more financially secure and have them fall in love with you in return. DO tell - I'm all agog:rotfl:

Your problem is that you are treating love and status as mutually exclusive - they are not. Part of a mans attractiveness is status and many women find this attractive and fall in love partly due to this high status.

Your comments suggest to me you have been watching too many Hollywood movies. It doesn’t work like that in the real world.

itchyfeet123

Cakeguts wrote: »

This is what I define as a luxury, a holiday, a car, a less than 10 years old television, dishwasher, £65 for pair of trainers, new furniture, fizzy drinks, wine, beer, takeaways, eating out, a pet, a mobile phone that isn't a pay as you go phone, computer, broadband at home.

I'd agree on some of those, like fizz drinks and booze.

Others it depends on individual circumstances. Time has money value, and I'm not going to say someone working two jobs who picks up the occasional takeaway instead of cooking the cheapest cut of meat for 7 hours is being a spendthrift.
Many of them just show you haven't really thought it through. For example, pay as you go phones, many cheap shoes (I speak from experience) are a false economy and are good examples of the "poor tax". Broadband at home is not negotiable for those of us whose employers don't believe in the antiquated 40 hour work week, or for those (carless, remember) people whose nearest library is four towns away and open from 10-4 mon to fri. If you're renting there are so many determinants of the price and a place with a dishwasher mat end up being cheaper than a place without for other reasons. Where exactly do you go to get a 10 year old tv? Ebay doesn't list age and neither do charity shops, and I strongly doubt 10 years is actually the magic number.

It's interesting what's not on your list. Microwave? Washing machine? Range? Oven? Indoor toilet? All of those are things that people still alive could say they did perfectly well without. (And at the other end of the housing crisis, the lack of cooking facilities explains some of the luxurious takeaway consumption).

economic

AdrianC wrote: »

Of course. However, Cakeguts did explicitly say "A supermarket is selling..."

People make minor mistakes. Get over it.

moneyistooshorttomention

economic wrote: »

Your problem is that you are treating love and status as mutually exclusive - they are not. Part of a mans attractiveness is status and many women find this attractive and fall in love partly due to this high status.

Your comments suggest to me you have been watching too many Hollywood movies. It doesn!!!8217;t work like that in the real world.

:rotfl:Oh yes....like I "fell in lust/infatuated" with a VERY high status man indeed back when (and it was mutual) - but more mature reflection revealed he was actually very shallow/not particularly nice (understatement) etc etc.

Real lasting love (the "real deal") is based largely on what the person themselves is like - and any "status" thing is just a possible initial attraction. But the second one finds out what they are really like - then it's probably a very different thing....:cool:. You can't "keep the blinkers on" for 40/50/60 years....in my experience any blinkers come off within months/first few years.

humptydumptybits

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Wow! again.

At the sheer fact that there are and have been plenty of people living well within their means/being very good with money in fact and still not able to buy a house.

As for "trying to buy in a place where they can't afford to buy" - I very much doubt many are trying to buy in a place outside their home area. Personally the phrase "We hold these truths to be self-evident" about a persons absolute right to be able to buy a home in their own home area is the one I have in my mind.

If one is being good with money and the home aimed for is in their own home area = I believe they have every right to find an affordable home there. Whatever sort of society is it that forces people to move against their will merely in order to be able to manage to get a roof over their head? Not a very humane or reasonable one imo.

Three of my 4 children bought their first houses in their university cities as did lots of their friends. In fact I don't think any of their friends have come back to our small town after university not due to house prices but to job opportunities.

Red-Squirrel_2

itchyfeet123 wrote: »

I'd agree on some of those, like fizz drinks and booze.

Others it depends on individual circumstances. Time has money value, and I'm not going to say someone working two jobs who picks up the occasional takeaway instead of cooking the cheapest cut of meat for 7 hours is being a spendthrift.
Many of them just show you haven't really thought it through. For example, pay as you go phones, many cheap shoes (I speak from experience) are a false economy and are good examples of the "poor tax". Broadband at home is not negotiable for those of us whose employers don't believe in the antiquated 40 hour work week, or for those (carless, remember) people whose nearest library is four towns away and open from 10-4 mon to fri. If you're renting there are so many determinants of the price and a place with a dishwasher mat end up being cheaper than a place without for other reasons. Where exactly do you go to get a 10 year old tv? Ebay doesn't list age and neither do charity shops, and I strongly doubt 10 years is actually the magic number.

It's interesting what's not on your list. Microwave? Washing machine? Range? Oven? Indoor toilet? All of those are things that people still alive could say they did perfectly well without. (And at the other end of the housing crisis, the lack of cooking facilities explains some of the luxurious takeaway consumption).

But! But! iPhones! Avocados! :rotfl:

Cakeguts

AdrianC wrote: »

Of course. However, Cakeguts did explicitly say "A supermarket is selling..."

It was an advert from Tesco.

You wouldn't believe where I got the username from even if I told you. It is much much more silly than me liking cakes.

Crashy_Time

jimbog wrote: »

Rarely have I read such nonsense in this forum

That surprises me actually.

Cakeguts

itchyfeet123 wrote: »

I'd agree on some of those, like fizz drinks and booze.

Others it depends on individual circumstances. Time has money value, and I'm not going to say someone working two jobs who picks up the occasional takeaway instead of cooking the cheapest cut of meat for 7 hours is being a spendthrift.
Many of them just show you haven't really thought it through. For example, pay as you go phones, many cheap shoes (I speak from experience) are a false economy and are good examples of the "poor tax". Broadband at home is not negotiable for those of us whose employers don't believe in the antiquated 40 hour work week, or for those (carless, remember) people whose nearest library is four towns away and open from 10-4 mon to fri. If you're renting there are so many determinants of the price and a place with a dishwasher mat end up being cheaper than a place without for other reasons. Where exactly do you go to get a 10 year old tv? Ebay doesn't list age and neither do charity shops, and I strongly doubt 10 years is actually the magic number.

It's interesting what's not on your list. Microwave? Washing machine? Range? Oven? Indoor toilet? All of those are things that people still alive could say they did perfectly well without. (And at the other end of the housing crisis, the lack of cooking facilities explains some of the luxurious takeaway consumption).

I don't think that the parents near here who give their children pay as you go phones rather than expensive iphones in order to keep them safe would thank you for calling their sensible decision a poor tax. A small child with an iphone is a target for robbery.

Trainers are not good quality shoes they are expensive because of the brand names. If you buy the same standard of manufacture without the brand name they cost about £15. Trainers costing £65 to get the brand name are a luxury.

I agree that some people have to have broadband but they don't have to have broadband and all the other things. You have what you can afford not what you want especially if what you want means that you can't save for a house. Many young people seem to think that it is their right to have everything they want and a still be able to buy a house even if their salaries don't support it.

I agree and occasional takeaway isn't a problem if it is in the budget but if people want lots of takeaways and eating out they can't then moan about not being able to save for a deposit.

You get 10 year old anythings by not changing them each year for the next latest model. Sometimes you can buy things that are 10 years old. Cars for example.